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bobek [bobek!~bobek@unaffiliated/bobek] has joined #java-talk [01:00]
KekSi 'morning [01:41]
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Faux Oh no. I've forgotten the name of the IBM/Eclipse dependency management / packaging / classloader hack thing, and totally can't remember how to describe it to Google. Nobody tell me. [03:30]
KekSi should be a good thing you forgot about it - why would you want to know about it again..? [03:31]
Faux I need to explain to the nodebois why someone has copied literally the entirety of Maven into their own namespace, added three lines to the MANIFEST.MF (a file the JVM ignores, I've been telling them), then re-uploaded it. [03:32]
Faux To central. [03:32]
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KekSi brilliant. [04:08]
sonOfRa morning [04:08]
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acuzio morning ladies [06:00]
acuzio fotato: Seen all of those ., hence the stipulation that it be something in the last 2 years. [06:01]
acuzio I had a really vivid dream last night where i was going thru' Swing Development and now i cant fucking remember why i was thinking about Swing [06:05]
Faux Nerd. [06:06]
acuzio Its really vivid ., its about high volume throughput and low latency [06:06]
acuzio I think i had some idea about it and i have just forgotten what it was about [06:07]
Faux Hope you're using kafka. [06:07]
acuzio I am actually involved with the Kafka community and it does have its place - this is not it though [06:08]
fotato Stomach in full revolt. I guess gym has to wait til this eve. [06:46]
Faux I think your diet might need fixing fotato [06:47]
fotato I ate really really spicy food. [06:51]
fotato Like, physically in pain spicy food. [06:51]
fotato So I mean. Yeah maybe I should stop doing that. [06:53]
Faux tells fotato's wife. [06:53]
fotato Jokes on you I don?t have a wife [06:54]
fotato cries in single [06:54]
fotato makes a flax, chia, matcha, mango, berry brotein smoothie [06:55]
Faux I have flax, chia and spinach in stock. Not sure I'm going to risk that, even with all the granulated sugar in the house. [06:56]
fotato Spinach is a good addition to smoothies but you wouldn?t want to base one on it. [06:56]
fotato My life changed when I discovered massive bags of frozen chopped fruit and whole berries. [06:57]
fotato Such convenience. [06:58]
sonOfRa I bought a "moderately spicy" spread (feta, aubergines, FIRE as ingredients) on the market on saturday. It is *not* moderately spicy. [06:58]
sonOfRa I can take hot food, but god damn this stuff burns [06:58]
fotato sonOfRa: rip your guts. But that sounds delicious. [06:58]
fotato Yeah. I was in Flatbush. I got guyanan food. [06:58]
fotato The hot sauce was basically napalm. [06:58]
sonOfRa omg [06:59]
sonOfRa I go out to eat too rarely [06:59]
sonOfRa Especially "exotic" foods [06:59]
fotato I mean. Guyanan food is basically the norm in Flatbush [07:00]
sonOfRa Yeah but I don't live in one of the biggest and ethnically diverse cities :D [07:00]
fotato What do you mean?! You can buy at least TWELVE different types of sausage. [07:01]
sonOfRa Yes. 12 types of sausages, and kebab [07:01]
fotato I bet it?s easier for you to find soucuk [07:01]
Faux In my parents town you can buy 12 different types of baked beans on toast. [07:01]
sonOfRa Yes, I can get that at any corner here [07:02]
fotato Faux: reminds me of that brexit meme [07:02]
fotato sonOfRa: sadness, it?s super hard to find here. [07:02]
sonOfRa In fact, the guy I bought the spreads from also has sucuk. Soucuk? I don't know. [07:02]
Faux SuckUK? I thought we weren't talking about brexit anymore. [07:03]
sonOfRa D [07:03]
fotato https://m.imgur.com/gallery/AGKSVAO found it. [07:03]
fotato fotato's title: "Norwegian police apprehends dangerous suspect - Album on Imgur" [07:03]
fotato Uh. Wrong link. [07:04]
fotato https://m.imgur.com/zaMFtcH [07:04]
fotato fotato's title: "Imgur: The magic of the Internet" [07:04]
Faux Well done. I didn't look because I failed to find it before hence it's still impossible to find. [07:04]
sonOfRa literally lolling [07:04]
sonOfRa toast under beans, fucking genius [07:04]
fotato Chips ok? [07:05]
fotato P sure it was a b3ta creation. [07:05]
sonOfRa Oh damn I thought that was actually real until I took a closer look [07:06]
fotato We aren?t that bad. [07:06]
fotato Sucuk and soucuk are both acceptable spellings. [07:07]
sonOfRa I've only seen sucuk here [07:07]
fotato And sujuk too. [07:07]
acuzio BTW , i am running a nerd poll ., if you guys could retire to any city in the world , where would you go? [07:11]
Faux London. [07:11]
acuzio I am making a note, here. [07:12]
Faux Checking it twice. [07:12]
acuzio Faux: Isnt London too full of mussies for you blue blooded folks [07:13]
Faux It's pretty bad out here in the suburbs, but I assume that eventually gentrification will drive them out. [07:14]
sonOfRa For retirement? I'd probably go back to my home village. [07:14]
acuzio which is where sonOfRa ? [07:14]
sonOfRa Bumfuck nowhere, germany [07:14]
Faux Yeah, I'd probably go back to my parents' area, I think. [07:14]
sonOfRa https://www.google.com/maps/place/Affeln,+58809+Neuenrade/@51.273182,7.8535997,16z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m5!3m4!1s0x47b95aeae992e257:0xa2760feec696380!8m2!3d51.2731394!4d7.8580959 [07:14]
acuzio Faux: and where is that ? Mansion in Kent, Surrey ? [07:15]
Faux Scarfolk coast, near Felixstowe. [07:15]
sonOfRa Nice hills and forests, beautiful area (look at the satellite map) [07:16]
acuzio sonOfRa: it actually looks lovely [07:16]
acuzio Faux: I am probly not white enough for that town [07:17]
Faux You are not. [07:17]
Faux There was a hush/sharp intake of breath when a black guy walked into their church. [07:17]
acuzio shakes his head [07:17]
acuzio I told one of my colleagues (in an unguarded moment) that i want to take 6 months off and travel the world. [07:19]
acuzio He turned around and said "I thought thats what you already did" [07:20]
Faux Sick burn. [07:22]
acuzio yeah i thought so too [07:23]
acuzio I do want to do the 6 months thing though ., i am just too scared to go thru with it [07:27]
Faux Why? [07:27]
acuzio I am in mid-life. Have commitments (re-mortgages etc) and i dont know if i take a 6 month break if i will be employable on the other side [07:28]
fotato You will. [07:30]
sonOfRa you can program a computer to do things [07:30]
sonOfRa Unless you manage to unlearn that in 6 months, you will still be employable [07:30]
acuzio Hmmm ., there is something to that [07:32]
acuzio Having said that, i have not done "proper" programming for near close to 4 years . I have been on Pre-sales and [07:32]
acuzio s/on/in Pre-sales and most of what i do is really for proving a concept. I dont think anything i have written in the last 4 years has actually made it to Production [07:33]
acuzio (The one thing that did go into production was not supposed to) [07:33]
acuzio I am known within the community and perhaps it wont be as bad - but i dont really know [07:35]
acuzio May be this is just prolonged Monday blues [07:35]
fotato Certainty is the enemy of progress. [07:39]
acuzio No idea what that means , it does sound good though [07:39]
fotato Or rather, change. Which might be progress. Or not! [07:39]
fotato It means you?re too scared to do something you want to do because SCARY and DIFFERENT so you continue with the comfortable, familiar misery you live with now [07:40]
KekSi sorry what now? you've been doing this for like years and years and years and you guess you'd be out of a job if you took just 6 months of sabbathical!? [07:43]
acuzio KekSi: Hmm yeah [07:44]
acuzio I am almost 40 and started working when i was 16 , started working professionaly from 21. Have never really taken time off as such [07:44]
KekSi yes, exactly - how would just 6 or 12 months change that..? [07:46]
KekSi some ppl do that every 10 years or so [07:46]
acuzio I dont know [07:48]
KekSi i mean: you probably have a lot more insight into all the industry stuff but i sure hope you're wrong (i'm 37 and have way less experience than you but am contemplating taking a while off some time in the future aswell) [07:48]
acuzio ONe data point that scares me is someone i know was a high flying entrepreneur and even got named in the Entrepeneur List at Princeton. Did 2 startups ., both went bust. Hasnt _really_ worked since 2010 [07:49]
KekSi sounds more like messed with the wrong ppl [07:52]
acuzio Dont know [07:53]
KekSi or hasn't come up with a new idea someone was interested in [07:53]
fotato <waz> ANECDOTES ARE NOT DATA [07:54]
fotato Wait isn?t that the ~be [07:54]
fotato be waz [07:54]
fotato To ignore facts doesn't mean they cease to exist. [07:54]
fotato Damn. No. [07:54]
fotato acuzio: I recommended it before, read ?subtle art of not giving a fuck? [07:55]
acuzio Yeah thats not high on my list right now fotato [07:59]
acuzio anyway back to it [07:59]
fotato Well. Bump it up. [08:00]
acuzio Speak to you lot later [08:00]
fotato NOT IF WE SPEAK TO YOU FIRST [08:00]
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Faux I went on one of those ass-enahncement machines in the gym, after seeing it in a porno, and gee is my ass sore. Hopefully that means it's working. [08:53]
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fotato May I also suggest one legged RDLs [09:08]
fotato Fitbod is demanding that I HANG SNATCHES today. No idea what that is. [09:09]
fotato Oh god it?s the CrossFit thing isn?t it. [09:12]
freeone3000 Maldivia: That's cilantro, not coriander. [09:13]
freeone3000 Also I should buy another few cans of beans. Beans are good. [09:18]
KekSi cilantro and coriander are the same thing and it tastes like soap [09:19]
freeone3000 KekSi: Your genetics are incorrect please fix. [09:19]
freeone3000 That'd be like. The weirdest eugenics program. Not based on correct race, or correct height, or correct brain, but the ability to correctly taste cilantro. [09:20]
KekSi blah, it's disgusting to me, what do you suggest i do about it then..? [09:23]
Faux Ooh, Azulu have Alpine builds. But docker images built against Ubuntu. Also, that CTA is.. just.. uh.. https://www.azul.com/downloads/zulu/zulu-download-alpine [09:27]
Faux Faux's title: "Download Zulu OpenJDK for Alpine Linux with MUSL" [09:27]
surial KekSi: you can teach yourself to not taste the soap. [09:30]
surial eat in small amounts, then eat more. also, there's a balance in cooking it (generally koriander leaves should be thrown in late, but for you a little earlier). But that's a lot of effort to go through. Still, given freeone3000's political platform, perhaps, to avoid an early demise, hop to it. [09:31]
KekSi yeah but what for? if it has a "good" taste for someone else i'm not having that so doing the same as with my tinnitus doesn't yield a profit -- on freeone3000's agenda i'm taking my chances [09:32]
surial Presumably the benefit (I know 2 people who have trained themselves) is to be able to, say, travel to thailand and eat someplace other than mcdonalds. [09:33]
surial Presumably the thai genome just doesn't have the soap gene. [09:33]
KekSi well.. i've spent about 6 weeks in thailand in 2018 and another 3 weeks in vietnam in november 2017 [09:33]
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freeone3000 Genetic testing makes it one of the best predictors of being white. 23% prevalance in caucasian populations, 3% in arab, 2% in hispanic, 4% in southeast asian. [09:34]
surial wow. [09:34]
KekSi it's usually not a problem to just order something without coriander (especially because it's usually put on late as a garnish) [09:34]
surial bizarre. [09:34]
surial That's MORE indicative than, say, ability to process lactose as an adult, which is also caucasian-favoured. [09:34]
surial KekSi: but, on the flipside, lemon cocos coriander soap contains a ton of it, its crucial and it's fucking TASTY. [09:35]
surial soap, lol. I meant soup. [09:35]
surial What's a freudian slip but for food? [09:35]
freeone3000 did u lol [09:35]
surial freeone3000: I actually chuckled out loud. [09:35]
surial It didn't quite rate as a laugh though. I will endeavour to write 'col' next time instead. [09:35]
KekSi in all that time i've been to 2 mcd's (in ho-chi-min-city because it was the nearest thing and i wanted a milkshake and last november in thailand because that was the nearest thing when a rainstorm started and we were on a bike) [09:36]
KekSi heh, soap -- highly accurate :p [09:36]
KekSi also: not a big fan of cocos -- i like drinking fresh coconut milk (as is very common and quite cheap in said asian countries) and coconut ice cream but i really dislike the texture and dishes that carry the flavour [09:39]
KekSi maybe i'm odd :x [09:39]
freeone3000 I remember as a kid just eating like, straight coconut shavings. As if that was a thing. [09:45]
freeone3000 ...Apparently amazon fresh thinks it straight up is. Cool. [09:47]
freeone3000 https://www.t3.com/news/motorola-razr-2019-confirmed-new-samsung-galaxy-fold-rival-to-launch-soon dangit motorola [09:49]
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freeone3000 "New trend discovered: Sprint completion date has been increasing steadily since 3 Feb 2018!" [09:57]
freeone3000 Thanks powerbi [09:57]
Faux D [09:57]
KekSi nice, i loved my razr [09:59]
ron http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/first-3d-print-of-heart-with-human-tissue-vessels-unveiled-142677 [10:02]
fotato aw, soon you'll have no reason to be heartless. [10:08]
freeone3000 what is this, a heart for ants? [10:23]
Faux Time to try and run an external process and capture stdout. In, uh, *rolls dice* node. Wonder when computers will work. [10:23]
Maldivia Faux: but why? [10:23]
Faux Options are Java/Python/Node. Running an external process because library design is impossible apparently and because linking is definitely impossible. [10:25]
freeone3000 python's a great option here [10:25]
fotato Faux: a variation of those sex dice for FULLSTACK DEVOPS ENGINEERS needs to be a thing. [10:25]
Faux Python isn't my friend because it deadlocks too easily if you aren't perfect with your streaming, it can't handle multiple requests reasonably, and communicate() can eat a dick. [10:27]
freeone3000 and java requires an external library, and node... is node. [10:27]
freeone3000 have you considered... bash? [10:27]
Faux It needs to respond to http. [10:27]
freeone3000 yep [10:27]
Faux Nope. [10:27]
Faux Nope. [10:27]
freeone3000 okay [10:27]
Faux Nope. [10:28]
Faux Nope. [10:28]
freeone3000 powershell, then [10:28]
freeone3000 that way you can use embedded IIS in order to serve the content but use the TCL.Net portion for the process capture [10:28]
Faux Java is also a problem for hosting because base images and licensing and jvm settings and etc. which we don't have currently. [10:29]
freeone3000 okay no powershell is kind of awful unless you literally work for microsoft [10:29]
Faux Yeah, I don't think iis in powershell on dicker on gke is really the solution. [10:29]
freeone3000 I bet you it'll work, though. :P [10:29]
Faux Is IIS working on core? [10:30]
Faux It probably won't, because our base images are from 1847. [10:30]
freeone3000 Faux: Something called IIS is what hosts .NETcore yes [10:30]
freeone3000 We only have so many names. [10:30]
freeone3000 hold on isn't this like, the traditional case for CGI? [10:31]
freeone3000 nginx in the front, fcgi in the back? [10:31]
freeone3000 ooh, nginx has out-of-the-box cgi support for bash. [10:31]
freeone3000 heck if you do that you might not even need the redirect wrapper. you probably might, but you might not [10:32]
Faux Heh. Wonder if nginx can match on an json post body. [10:32]
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Faux omg the beta node api did what I meant. Wonder if it will deadlock under light usage or in dicker under no load. [10:47]
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freeone3000 man I'm really looking forward to a sandwich for lunch [11:28]
freeone3000 what the heck is wrong with me [11:28]
fotato dude [11:29]
Faux Pretty sure that's a sign of the gay. Sorry. [11:29]
fotato i've had some fucking epic sandwiche [11:29]
fotato s [11:29]
fotato <Faux> <fotato> I've been part of some epic sandwiches [11:29]
Faux HURR [11:30]
Faux https://www.google.com/search?q=node+peek+iterator rust, then ignores peek, then ignore node and return Java results. [11:30]
freeone3000 Faux: My first hits are from python. [11:30]
freeone3000 then mdn. then java. [11:30]
Faux Pretty sure that's a sign of the gay. Sorry. [11:30]
freeone3000 Faux: Look, I like sucking cock as much as the next guy, but not everything is a sign of the gay. [11:31]
fotato uh, my first hit on that link is JS. [11:31]
Faux JS, Java, Java, Rust, Java, Java, Scala, C++ in porn mode. [11:31]
fotato wait i assumed f1 was bi anyway why is this a thing [11:31]
Faux All the cool people are. [11:32]
Faux stares at fotato really hard. [11:32]
fotato i dont know wha tyou're trying to imply [11:32]
fotato preens fabulously [11:32]
Faux peeks at fotato's node. [11:33]
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fotato desyncs Faux [11:37]
fotato goign to see Claypool Lennon Delirium tomorrow night, and Twiddle on sat. [11:37]
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fotato sonOfRa: ^ [11:38]
acuzio Went for a run [11:52]
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acuzio got called, [11:52]
acuzio stopped [11:52]
acuzio started. [11:52]
acuzio got called again [11:52]
acuzio Switched off phone. Came back to 13 emails in 45 minutes [11:53]
[twisti] Ouch [11:53]
[twisti] Your life sucks mate [11:53]
Faux Nobody has tried to talk to me since our 2pm sync meeting, which we use for syncing, then everyone goes off to do their work. [11:54]
Faux (three hours ago) [11:54]
freeone3000 yay [11:54]
fotato i'm sitting in a 'retro' and a 'backlog grooming and sprint planning' meeting. [11:54]
fotato i haven't spoken in like half an hour. [11:54]
fotato acuzio: you should quit. [11:54]
freeone3000 nobody's spoken to me today yet. it's pretty good. [11:55]
fotato i like your shirt, freeone3000. [11:55]
fotato it would look better on my bedroom floor WINK SMILE WINK TONGUE FACE [11:55]
acuzio sometimes its talk [11:56]
acuzio most times its email, slack or whatsapp [11:56]
acuzio its shallow work [11:56]
fotato ur shallow. [11:59]
acuzio yes thanks fotato [12:01]
ron what's acuzio bitching about now [12:02]
acuzio i am not bitching about anything ron [12:02]
Faux His company not understanding work/life balance. [12:02]
fotato his life is shit but he doesn't want to change it. [12:02]
ron acuzio: oh? did you die? [12:02]
Faux That too. [12:02]
acuzio shakes his head [12:04]
ron which one? [12:05]
fotato like a polaroid picture. [12:05]
ron as far as I can tell, it doesn't matter who you are [12:06]
fotato okay, ron. [12:17]
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ron I am milk [12:18]
freeone3000 I am... cereal? [12:20]
ron fail [12:25]
freeone3000 Oh boy. Coworker to my right has decided today is Perfume Day. [12:34]
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fotato The rule with fragrances is you gotta be in my personal space to smell it. [12:43]
sonOfRa Maybe that person's personal space is just really big [12:46]
fotato ron: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_Am_Bread [12:46]
sonOfRa fotato: I have not heard of either of those. I shall find them on spotify and judge them/you [12:46]
fotato You?ve not heard of les claypool? Primus? [12:47]
fotato He got together with the son of John Lennon to do psychedelic prog rock with awesome slap bass. [12:47]
ron fotato: yeah, know of it [12:50]
freeone3000 Rental car. Starred out my cc #, okay, my phone number, sure, and my *last name* [01:00]
freeone3000 "Are you James last-name starts with M ends with e?" [01:01]
fotato James Masturbate [01:02]
sonOfRa https://twitter.com/TennDGS/status/1116401713571876865 [01:08]
sonOfRa sonOfRa's title: "TN Department of General Services on Twitter: "We're thrilled that our LESO program, in our Vehicle and Asset Management division, was able to supply @GreeneSheriff with this mine-resistant ambush protected vehicle (MRAP) for the agencys use. : @GreeneSun pic.twitter.com/NHKOTpcZIn"" [01:08]
sonOfRa Ah yes [01:08]
sonOfRa So that the police can navigate the famous TN mine fields [01:08]
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freeone3000 how this generally works: They needed a new van. Government is giving away MRAPs because they don't really need them anymore. MRAP is *like* a van, so whatever, bought. [01:11]
freeone3000 local government saved some money, federal government got rid of a thing they don't need, and the local PD has a van now. [01:11]
sonOfRa Can anyone recommend a good (wireless) headset? My old wired G430 has died. [01:20]
sonOfRa And I think I wanna go wireless this time around [01:20]
sonOfRa Oh shit notre dame is burning. [01:24]
sonOfRa and not just a bit https://twitter.com/pascalwijler/status/1117838970904371200 [01:24]
sonOfRa sonOfRa's title: "Pascal Wijler on Twitter: "BREAKING #NotreDame #Paris in flames via @khentekas.https://www.pscp.tv/w/b4SzhjgxNzYxOHwxeU5HYXZvQnlMZ0pqcVE0iDpxOaG16FkgC7UZHYxCHnHhGqwKWRsVE_KNdy8= "" [01:24]
freeone3000 sonOfRa: Sony MDR1000XM3s. [01:28]
sonOfRa But then I also have to buy a microphone? [01:28]
freeone3000 No, the in-built mic is pretty good? [01:29]
sonOfRa oh I didn't see that it has one [01:29]
freeone3000 They may not advertise it but it definitely has one because I use it. [01:29]
sonOfRa I see. [01:33]
sonOfRa Alright so that's 2 points for that model, and one recommendation for Sennheiser PXC-550 [01:35]
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sonOfRa well, I'm glad I got to see Notre Dame while it was still standing. [01:40]
sonOfRa freeone3000: do I have to buy a bluetooth nub for my PC, or does it come with one? [01:52]
freeone3000 sonOfRa: No nub included, but it does come with a 3.5mm cable that detaches on both ends. [01:55]
freeone3000 Helpfully, this overrides bluetooth. [01:56]
sonOfRa Probably going to order a nub. I kinda wanna use it in wireless mode on the computer as well as phone [01:56]
sonOfRa One of the towers has collapsed. Such a beautiful building :( [01:57]
sonOfRa A spire, not a tower. [02:02]
fotato damn, i never got to visit the inside of the place. [02:02]
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fotato it was badly in need of repairs. i imagine it'll be demolished at this point. [02:03]
sonOfRa Currently they're thinking the reconstruction work caused the fire [02:04]
Faux Never change anything. CONSERVATISM FTW [02:04]
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freeone3000 But now there's all this prime developmental land right in the heart of paris [02:06]
Faux > In the Great Fire of London of 1666, Old St Paul's was gutted.[13] While it might have been possible to reconstruct it, a decision was taken to build a new cathedral in a modern style. This course of action had been proposed even before the fire. [02:06]
Faux How /convenient/. [02:06]
freeone3000 Couldn't they have just done that without the fire? [02:07]
Faux Insurance scam. [02:07]
freeone3000 Does the catholic church even have insurance? [02:07]
Faux No need, we have laws on the books where rich white people have to pay for it. [02:08]
freeone3000 (Also: They do, at least in Quebec.) [02:08]
Faux ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chancel_repair_liability . Yes, it is 1300 here, thanks for asking.) [02:08]
fotato why do you know these things [02:09]
fotato `brew update` is sitting there doing nothing [02:09]
Faux Because I was advised to insure against it, and instead got really angry about it. [02:09]
Faux Try turning off your VPNs. [02:09]
fotato i dont have any on right now. [02:09]
fotato oh there it foes. [02:10]
fotato it updated about a bajillion packages. [02:10]
fotato i wish it would be a little more verbose instead of waiting until it's done. [02:10]
Faux The primary alternative to paying up during a chancel repair liability incident, for people without insurance, is to *hire a historian* to prove that you are not within the church's catchment zone. [02:10]
Faux That's almost a better fact than the fact that I can only remember that 1666 is the great fire of london because it looks like the numbers are lil' burning houses. [02:10]
fotato not that it's the number of the beast? [02:11]
Faux It wasn't 1616! [02:11]
fotato >==> Pouring ruby-2.6.2.mojave.bottle.tar.gz [02:11]
fotato sigh. [02:11]
fotato .... 666 [02:11]
fotato the number of the beast [02:11]
Faux I was trying to force a comedy /r/autism meme. [02:12]
Faux https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/616_(number)#The_Number_of_the_Beast [02:12]
fotato heh [02:12]
fotato >==> Installing thefuck dependency: python [02:13]
Faux Well, actually. [02:13]
Faux Modern research shows that. [02:13]
fotato wat r u /doin/ brew [02:13]
Faux I know what thefuck is and am not surprised at all that you have it installed. [02:13]
fotato it doesn't even work [02:13]
fotato i should remove it. [02:13]
fotato (it's ron's fault) [02:13]
freeone3000 Faux: Does the church then hire their own historian? [02:14]
Faux The Trump/German people are talking about who's civilisation was more firebombed by nazis and whether churches have any meaning or can be reconstructed. [02:14]
freeone3000 And you have two historians going over 300-year-old books in front of a guy in a wig? [02:14]
Faux freeone3000: Yup! [02:14]
fotato what about the firebombing of japan? [02:15]
Faux See the Wallbank section of that article. [02:15]
fotato or dresden? does dresden count? they were german after all [02:15]
Faux fotato: They didn't have churches so clearly they weren't people. [02:15]
freeone3000 "law lords". [02:15]
fotato oh, i am reminded of that book [02:15]
fotato uh [02:15]
fotato slaughterhouse five [02:16]
Faux I didn't really realise that the nazis attacked themselves in confusion, tbh. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kirchenkampf#Fifth_stage_(1939_to_1945) [02:16]
freeone3000 Faux: The first paragraph nearly makes sense then the second paragraph goes into ecclisiactical jargon [02:16]
Faux freeone3000: Maybe you should hire a historian to explain it to you. [02:17]
Faux It's literally their only source of employment. [02:17]
fotato and the history channel [02:17]
fotato (only kidding lolololol) [02:17]
sonOfRa I guess the upshot here is that notre dame is on the isle de la cite and it won't burn down all of paris if they can't contain the fire [02:18]
Faux Giggling at the image of all of London's fire engines on the eurostar to try and contain a Great Fire Of Paris. [02:18]
freeone3000 Paris has a very competent fire patrol. Paris has never burned down. [02:18]
fotato the french. the french. the french are on fire. [02:19]
Faux Most of europe is made out of not-fire (unlike the US), perhaps since we kept burning everything down. I'm sure the US will work it out within 500 years. [02:19]
freeone3000 nah it's cheaper to just rebuild it. [02:19]
Faux https://i.imgur.com/c3sufaS.jpg [02:19]
fotato i'm not sure paris' fire patrol was particularly competent in the 17th century, freeone3000 [02:19]
freeone3000 Faux: I'm going to object to that edit due to recency and say it belongs in WP:NEWS [02:20]
fotato oh wikipedia, never change. [02:20]
freeone3000 because fires by their very nature are temporary events, so unless it's the Centralia Mine fire, it's a temporary thing. [02:20]
freeone3000 (The Centralia mine fire started in 1962. Still there.) [02:20]
sonOfRa Yeah, if you start burning old compressed biomass, it tends to go for a while [02:21]
sonOfRa Peat bogs, coalmines, the like [02:22]
Faux Americans. [02:22]
freeone3000 sonOfRa: The city of Centralia had an old coal mine. They then used it as a dump. The dump was full. [02:22]
sonOfRa We had a nice peat bog fire for about a month here last year [02:22]
freeone3000 They then decided to clear the dump by lighting it on fire. [02:22]
fotato sounds like a convenient way to dispose of a lot of bodies. [02:23]
freeone3000 The only death was in 1982, where a young boy fell into a sinkhole caused by the fire. The town was evacuated after. [02:23]
freeone3000 The remainder of the residents were finally evicted in a supreme court appeal in... 2012. [02:24]
sonOfRa The peat bog fire was caused by the army firing missiles into a bone-dry peat area in the middle of the summer [02:24]
sonOfRa While both of their mandatory fire control vehicles were inoperable [02:24]
Faux FUCK YOU PEAT [02:24]
freeone3000 ...the years involved don't make sense. [02:24]
fotato fuckin' peat. [02:24]
sonOfRa The site is ~150km away from my place [02:25]
sonOfRa On bad wind days, I had the biting smell of burning peat in my apt [02:25]
freeone3000 Oh. And Vanderbilt, Pennsylvania. [02:25]
Faux sonOfRa: That's a weird digestive condition. [02:25]
freeone3000 Wikipedia has this to say: "Vanderbilt is the site of a mine fire, which, unlike the one in Centralia, Pennsylvania, has so far had little impact on the borough" [02:25]
Faux If it doesn't say "It is currently on fire." I will be very disappointed. [02:26]
freeone3000 It does not. [02:26]
sonOfRa My disappointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined. [02:27]
freeone3000 Oh, and there's Baba Gurgur, which is a natural gas fire in Iraq, estimated to have been burning for 2500 years. [02:27]
Faux I'm reminded of those natural nuclear reactors. [02:27]
Faux If that's not a conspiracy theory, I don't know what these people are doing. [02:28]
freeone3000 well, they're taking the oil from underneath the fire and selling it. [02:28]
Faux Eventually (unless the gaia earth hypothesis is true!) the fire will collapse down into the void left, and the problem will be solved. [02:28]
fotato if that thing my chemistry teacher did with the sink covers and natural gas is anything to go by, that's going to result in a hell of an explosion. [02:30]
freeone3000 fotato: So the Turkmen gas gyser is interesting in this regard. [02:30]
freeone3000 They actually did the explosion first, and then lit the fire deliberately. [02:30]
Faux GAIA EARTH [02:30]
fotato yes but when the pressure of the gas drops to below the point where it can sustain a jet, boom. [02:31]
freeone3000 (Because apparently you can die from methane poisoning and there were nearby populated towns, so they lit the methane on fire.) [02:31]
Faux acuzio: What's happened with Brexit? Is it now not done? [02:32]
fotato acuzio: what's happening with your life? do you still not know? [02:32]
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sonOfRa So I'm going to get a Sony WH-1000XM3 or a Sennheiser PXC 550. Anyone got recommendations for/against one of them? freeone3000 already recommended the sony model. [02:40]
fotato the sony headphones have overtaken the bose quietcomforts as the best noise canceling headphones. [02:43]
fotato by.... most authorities. [02:44]
acuzio sonOfRa: Sony [02:50]
acuzio holy smokes: https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2019/apr/15/notre-dame-cathedral-fire-paris-france-landmark-live-news [03:01]
acuzio acuzio's title: "Notre Dame Cathedral: spire collapses in huge fire live news | World news | The Guardian" [03:01]
Faux LITERALLY OLOL [03:02]
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acuzio mate , its a fucking landmark that [03:08]
sonOfRa he's laughing at "holy smokes" [03:08]
sonOfRa as did I [03:09]
sonOfRa You may have not intended that quite genius pun. [03:09]
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freeone3000 usually we only see that pun during a convocation of the cardinals [03:25]
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fotato I think it?s fair to say that acuzio doesn?t intend for the majority of the things he says to be found hilarious. [03:42]
fotato Holy shit. There?s a new 8 series cabriolet? freeone3000 why don?t you own one yet? [03:43]
freeone3000 cause I live in Canada and there's 8 months of winter [03:59]
freeone3000 honestly if I were to buy a car I'd buy the i4 when that comes out [04:00]
acuzio That is a genius pun indeed [04:06]
acuzio inappropriate of course [04:06]
acuzio Did i tell you car guys that i have a Lexus? [04:10]
fotato yes. it's a boring car for boring people. [04:10]
acuzio I think its one of the better purchases i have made . [04:10]
acuzio I want boring and working [04:10]
freeone3000 It's a Toyota for people who think they're too rich to own a Toyota. [04:11]
fotato ^ [04:11]
acuzio Thats exactly what i want [04:11]
fotato i was literally typing 'just fucking buy a toyota' [04:11]
fotato literally any car is more interesting than a lexus. [04:11]
freeone3000 fotato: The Toyota Corolla. [04:11]
freeone3000 fotato: The Chevrolet Nova. [04:11]
Faux Toy yoda. [04:11]
fotato oof [04:11]
fotato ok. [04:11]
acuzio Its car i can drive in Chelsea and Central London and it wont be out of place [04:11]
freeone3000 The Hyundai Elantra. [04:11]
fotato nothing would be out of place in central london or chelsea because you literally see lamborghinis alongside skodas there. [04:12]
fotato literally. [04:12]
freeone3000 Actually the Elantra is actually kind of interesting because it's a fleet car here but it's not really popular among drivers, so you see it as a rental but not as anything else. [04:12]
fotato in fact i think it's sort of incredible that you considered this at all. [04:12]
acuzio Hmm , yes fotato but i am more interested when i park in certain places or have places where Valets take the car [04:12]
Faux ^ a perfectly normal problem. [04:13]
fotato so buy a fucking range rover. [04:13]
freeone3000 dude you are paying them I bet you they don't give two shits [04:13]
freeone3000 yes buy a range rover make valets hate you forever for buying a fucking massive car that's impossible to park [04:13]
fotato and have it tricked out by Revere [04:13]
acuzio freeone3000: She comes with me and i sort of like Her to feel special about it [04:13]
fotato the evoque isnt that big. [04:13]
fotato the lexus is not a special car. [04:13]
freeone3000 I had to tip extra for them to park my Infiniti just because it's like 1.2x the size of a Normal Car here. [04:13]
acuzio fotato: it is not a special car ., except it is a Boring Luxury Car and thats all i want [04:14]
fotato why boring? [04:14]
fotato it's just as reliable as any other luxury car that's interesting. [04:14]
acuzio cause i want to sit in it, press button and go [04:14]
acuzio Interesting means i have to _think_ about it and i dont want to [04:14]
fotato i see, another page of your 'how can i make my life as uninteresting as possible' [04:15]
fotato book [04:15]
acuzio Yes [04:15]
acuzio I have reached a stage where i want things to work and not know why or how. [04:15]
fotato they can still do that and be fun [04:15]
acuzio Its my progress from Slack to Ubuntu [04:15]
fotato my bm1 135 was 'sit in it, push a button and go' [04:15]
acuzio I hate BMW's [04:16]
fotato but it did 0-60 in 4.8 seconds, was a RWD hatchback and i could make it go sideways [04:16]
acuzio I dont care [04:16]
acuzio I hate BMWs [04:16]
fotato pff. [04:16]
fotato so pretty. https://www.topgear.com/sites/default/files/styles/fit_1960x1102/public/cars-car/carousel/2015/06/1_0.jpg?itok=_7IK8hvv [04:16]
acuzio They are not comfortable . every single bump on the road in this small island coutnry is felt on a BMW [04:17]
fotato nah. [04:17]
fotato magnetically adjustable dampers, bb. [04:17]
acuzio i still havent decided if we should get a car for NYC [04:17]
fotato you're... moving? [04:18]
acuzio I still live in both places [04:18]
fotato i mean i guess technically so do i [04:18]
acuzio I spent 4 months in America last year [04:18]
acuzio and 8 in Europe [04:19]
fotato and not a single moment letting me berate you in person. [04:19]
acuzio true [04:19]
fotato also: do not get a car in NYC. [04:19]
fotato get a zipcar membership. [04:19]
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acuzio If i reverse the polarity then i dont plan to have a car but i said the same thing in London as well [04:22]
fotato do not get a car in NYC. [04:22]
acuzio I dont plan to mate [04:22]
fotato then again you're a rich fucker so can probably afford the $600/mo parking charges. [04:22]
acuzio She thinks we should move to Asia and do less stressful jobs [04:24]
acuzio She suggested India [04:25]
acuzio well , ok i hinted India [04:25]
fotato moving bak to NYC would be literally the opposite of that. [04:26]
acuzio hmmm yeah [04:31]
acuzio She thinks we should do something else , i am not sure if i can [04:31]
fotato you are already doing something else. [04:32]
fotato the politics work you're doing seems important to you. tap that. [04:33]
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fotato whaleeeeeey [04:51]
fotato whaaaaaaaaley [04:51]
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freeone3000 fotato: That's an estate wagon they've shortened [06:14]
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freeone3000 fotato: https://electrek.co/wp-content/uploads/sites/3/2018/10/BMW-i4-e1539873421100.jpg?quality=82&strip=all&w=1600 [06:14]
fotato freeone3000: nah man it?s its own platform. [06:18]
fotato It sold in the us markets because Americans don?t like hatchbacks. [06:19]
freeone3000 it's cause they look like short minivans [06:19]
fotato It?s because y?all have no taste. [06:19]
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Faux s/like/fit in/ [06:21]
whaley Faux: do you have the yoko ono sushi tits? [06:22]
Faux Not afaik! [06:22]
fotato Ok new router has made internet tolerable. [06:32]
Faux Does it strip ads and Nazis? [06:32]
Faux I don't think Nazis needs capitalising Android. [06:33]
fotato I?m not sure. Haven?t really delved into the settings yet. The setup app was a bit arse and doesn?t expose anything fun [06:34]
freeone3000 should flash it with ddwrt [06:35]
fotato Meh. I prefer to forget about my router. [06:36]
fotato Wait. I mean it WASNT sold in US markets. [06:41]
fotato The 2 series coupe based on the same platform was, however. [06:41]
freeone3000 yep. 2-series are here, they're teensy tiny, and surprisingly fast. [06:43]
freeone3000 and have an absolutely shit centre console [06:43]
freeone3000 https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/4493509/windows-10-update-kb4493509 [06:53]
freeone3000 TURNS OUT OUR PROCESSES MAY HAVE BEEN INSUFFICIENT [06:53]
Faux Sophos! [07:02]
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