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bobek [bobek!~bobek@unaffiliated/bobek] has joined #java-talk [02:14]
KekSi 'morning [02:28]
db morning [02:39]
KekSi i feel like shit.. sinuses clogged, raspy throat and fighting with my (ex) girlfriend [02:54]
KekSi perfect for the first day of the week [02:56]
db (ex)? why the parentheses [03:00]
AMcBain because it's not assured yet? (arbitrary guess) [03:07]
selckin wasn't he moving in together last week [03:07]
selckin or was that someone else [03:07]
db one week uh oh [03:08]
AMcBain Well if the past is any indication I think this channel is pretty bad at diagnosing relationship issues. [03:11]
KekSi no, decided to leave her but we're acting like we're still together until she has found an apartment [03:11]
KekSi but she doesn't make as much money as i do and also didn't get her contract renewed so is also looking for a new job starting in august [03:12]
AMcBain Bummer. [03:12]
KekSi i've told her all the time to save up some money but she hasn't and now she's having a hard time finding a place [03:13]
KekSi i've tried to be supportive in finding one and giving her tips on things to avoid and whatnot [03:14]
KekSi but job-seeking isn't as easy when you don't want to do any job you've done before or finished an apprenticeship in [03:14]
AMcBain Props for helping, but yeah, [phrase about horses and drinking]. [03:15]
KekSi and she doesn't have enough money for security deposit for an apartment [03:15]
KekSi but yesterday she asked me to lend her money for that [03:15]
KekSi but used a phrasing like i fucking owe her that [03:15]
KekSi i was so annoyed by that that i briefly thought about throwing her out right then and there [03:16]
KekSi the money wouldn't be an issue etc but just the audacity [03:16]
selckin that what parents are for [03:17]
KekSi she said they would help her way too much and she didn't want to ask them for even more money [03:18]
selckin ( [03:19]
AMcBain The first part doesn't sound too bad, but I also get the supposed sentiment. [03:19]
db phrase about horses and drinking?! [03:28]
Faux leads db to an idiom dictionary. [03:28]
selckin updating xom from 1.2 to 1.3 made my tests go from 20min to 45min+ [03:30]
selckin lets the fun begin [03:30]
db you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink. [03:31]
sonOfRa morning [04:09]
[twisti] once again i come with you with a query towards software recommendations: we have various stuff that runs on various machines that logs to various text files. many of this is ancient crapware that cannot easily be upgraded to log differently. can you guys recommend something to collect these logs and somehow centrally aggregate them, maybe with a nice interface to browse, search and tail them ? [04:11]
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Faux elk is the most popular one. graylog2 is a worthwhile condender. [04:17]
Faux elk [04:17]
Faux Faux, what does that even *mean*? [04:17]
Faux Personally I'm old and have a grey beard, so prefer just rsyncing all the logs onto one machine and sshing in, 'cos grep is hundreds of times better than any non-Splunk web interface I've used. [04:18]
sonOfRa should use ripgrep [04:18]
sonOfRa so fast. [04:18]
sonOfRa also RUST [04:19]
Faux So ripped. [04:19]
Faux I know too much about grep flags and rules. [04:19]
Faux sonOfRa: openssl 1.1.1 (tls1.3) in ubuntu lts. \o\ [04:19]
sonOfRa hooray [04:20]
sonOfRa gentoo has 1.1.0 these days, but only in the testing branch, and 1.1.1 is still hard masked [04:20]
sonOfRa Eventually. [04:20]
sonOfRa They have what, 3 months, to stabilize 1.1.0? [04:20]
Faux 1.1.0 EOL is in 3 months, 1.0.2 in 6 months. [04:20]
sonOfRa ah [04:21]
sonOfRa Is 1.1.1 somehow incompatible with 1.1.0? [04:23]
Faux No, but it is (in true openssl style) a massive feature release. [04:23]
sonOfRa Because 1.1.0 is just "not stable" in gentoo and 1.1.1 is "can't install this without telling the package manager that you really know what you are doing" [04:23]
sonOfRa heh [04:23]
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[twisti] thanks faux [04:24]
acuzio morning ladies [04:27]
Faux acuzio. [04:27]
acuzio Faux: [04:27]
Faux Coming to my wedding / brexit celebration? [04:27]
acuzio have you decided the date/time for your wedding? [04:27]
sonOfRa Huh, that new ryzen stuff sure looks impressive [04:28]
db have you decided the date/time of brexit? [04:28]
Faux acuzio: Sat 31st Aug, ~1600. [04:28]
[twisti] Faux: looks like theres a graylog 3 out [04:30]
acuzio Faux: Whereabouts ? [04:30]
Faux acuzio: Willesden Green. [04:30]
acuzio You getting married in a church or something Faux ? [04:31]
Faux You are invited to the party, not the ceremony. [04:31]
Faux St. Gabriels, Cricklewood is nice. [04:31]
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Faux [twisti]: No personal experience (it's been multiple years). Current place uses the kubernetes stuff (i.e. having changed the services) and structlog (i.e. having changed the services). [04:35]
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anno13233 parted the channel: [04:54]
acuzio So wheres the Party then ? [05:20]
acuzio And does it involve drunken overweight women dancing [05:20]
Faux Not yet decided. It will be within walking distance, though. [05:20]
Faux Please write these details in your calendaring system because I won't be telling you again. [05:20]
acuzio I have written it down [05:20]
acuzio And i expect to make it [05:21]
Faux Cool. I'll remind you every day. [05:21]
acuzio Serious question is it +1 ? [05:22]
Faux Yes. [05:22]
acuzio Oh .. really ? [05:22]
acuzio you must be rich [05:22]
Faux I hate to think what kind of expectations acuzio has on a "party". [05:22]
acuzio food, beverage, some chat [05:23]
acuzio thats really it [05:23]
db acuzio: it's in London. it's gonna be hard to find *any* place there without drunken overweight women. [05:24]
acuzio BTW have you guys been to Buchar ? [05:24]
acuzio db: point [05:24]
acuzio Bucharest [05:24]
Faux Nope. [05:24]
acuzio young, pretty women .... everywhere [05:24]
Faux I mean, my mother is going to be there, does that count? [05:24]
acuzio i dont know , is she a woman? [05:25]
acuzio And almost all women i have seen are hot over here [05:25]
acuzio tight tops or low, cut loose hanging ones , just nice [05:26]
Faux The council, when we submitted the marriage forms, asked "Are you a man?" "Have you always been a man?" [05:26]
acuzio And the answer is of course no, no [05:26]
acuzio wait , why are you submitting forms to the Council ? Is that a thing you have to do ? [05:27]
Faux Yes. [05:27]
Faux You get to pay (through the nose) for the privilege, too. [05:38]
acuzio fuck [05:48]
Faux Did you forget? [05:48]
acuzio i have to say , please move to Bucharest [05:48]
Faux Why not just hire camwhores from Bucharest? [05:48]
acuzio i am just surrounded by overwhelmingly young, hot women [05:48]
acuzio i dont like camwhores [05:48]
Faux I don't like moving. [05:49]
acuzio holidays in Bucharest [05:49]
Faux Temporary moving is as bad as permanent moving. [05:50]
acuzio hot women, great weather, cheap, fantastic food [05:50]
acuzio and great internet [05:50]
Faux Sounds like a good place to retire to, what with all that money you have. [05:50]
Faux Sell your Asian funds, buy a house there. [05:50]
Faux https://www.rightmove.co.uk/overseas-property/property-72110014.html that's in budget. [05:51]
Faux Faux's title: "4 bedroom house for sale in Bucharest, Bucuresti, Romania" [05:51]
sonOfRa Gotta figure out if there's fast internet there [05:51]
[twisti] great, i have a colleague complaining that 'sometimes git just eats commits during merge'. he can, of course, not provide any actual examples of this happening, which doesnt stop him from shit talking about git to our boss [05:51]
sonOfRa But 85k sounds pretty alright [05:51]
Faux Just spend 20k running fibre from the airport. [05:54]
sonOfRa bucharest actually has pretty good internet [05:54]
sonOfRa A friend moved their a while back. He remote works for a US company, and lives on a US salary in bucharest [05:55]
Faux I hope he's retiring this year. [05:55]
sonOfRa He is quite careful to not spend more than 30 days a year in the US [05:55]
sonOfRa No, he will not ever retire. At least not from his side job, which is making dick-jokes on the internet [05:55]
Faux Oh, it's acuzio? [05:56]
sonOfRa heh [05:56]
sonOfRa It's the guy who runs cock.li [05:56]
Faux The cock.li website is so full of gems. [05:59]
sonOfRa He is a man truly committed to the memes. [06:00]
Faux "Better crypto (replaced SHA1/DH/RSA1024 with SHA3/ed25519/curve25519)" on tor hiddenserviceversion 3. [06:03]
acuzio how the fuck did your friend manage that ? living on US salary in Romania [06:03]
Faux 1) get a job that allows remote. 2) move. [06:03]
acuzio I would love to do that ? [06:04]
Faux Okay. Time to start on #1. [06:04]
sonOfRa acuzio: so he got a job that was already remote [06:04]
sonOfRa And then he asked [06:04]
Faux People from work have moved to Amsterdam and Bath. [06:04]
sonOfRa "What if I moved to romania guys" [06:04]
sonOfRa And they were like "yeah sure who cares do your thing" [06:04]
sonOfRa And then he moved to romania [06:05]
Faux Two in NL, one in CZ. [06:07]
Faux Two prag. [06:07]
acuzio The only problem with OTP is .. airline connections [06:11]
acuzio as in lack of [06:11]
Faux Why? Just don't fly anywhere. [06:14]
acuzio yeah that doesnt work [06:21]
Faux I know I don't, but what are you? [06:21]
sonOfRa ugh. Considering just aborting my bachelor's thesis and work full time instead [06:27]
sonOfRa This is going terribly. [06:27]
Faux So glad I did a year out, not a part time year. [06:28]
Faux Hated academia after a year in the real world, but only had one year left. [06:29]
sonOfRa I only have my thesis left, but every time I try to start on it, I manage very little and it's just making my depression worse again [06:29]
Faux If you think that's bad, you should try working on work's node monolith. [06:29]
sonOfRa Considering just quitting for good, my current employer will keep me anyhow, and after I've had one or two jobs for a while, who cares about me having finished my studies or not [06:29]
Faux BANKS [06:30]
Faux BANKS CARE [06:30]
sonOfRa Yeah no I'm not gonna work at a fucking bank [06:30]
Faux Yeah but how will you avoid having a life by working 24/7? [06:30]
sonOfRa I'll play video games which simulate work-like environments [06:30]
sonOfRa So when I get off work, I can work. [06:30]
Faux Currently playing Rise to Ruins. [06:31]
sonOfRa I started playing diablo3 again with the gf [06:31]
sonOfRa Grind for gear, get higher levels, grind for more gear! [06:31]
sonOfRa But monsters go explodey and big numbers show up on the screen. [06:31]
Faux Then you get RSI. [06:31]
sonOfRa Sounds like work to me! [06:35]
acuzio I realised i havent eaten today [06:35]
sonOfRa That's okay it's only noon [06:36]
KekSi sonOfRa: just fucking write it.. it's a fucking bsc thesis [07:03]
KekSi i could crank one out in a weekend if i wanted to [07:03]
KekSi at least if you know anything about the topic you're writing on [07:03]
Faux Sometimes I think sitting on trains. [07:03]
KekSi and you should - why else would you have chosen it? [07:03]
Faux Desperation. [07:04]
Faux Liked it before you knew anything about it, like computers in general. [07:04]
sonOfRa Ah yes. "I can't write it because every time I try I fail and it worsens my depression" [07:04]
sonOfRa "Just fucking write it" [07:04]
KekSi i got a 1.3 on my bsc thesis and a 1.0 on my msc thesis [07:04]
sonOfRa Gee thanks good advice, finishing my thesis by tomorrow [07:04]
Faux Just don't be depressed, sonOfRa. [07:04]
Faux Buy some more money. [07:04]
KekSi and i had to cut the latter down from ~130 to ~90ish pages [07:04]
KekSi just write your outline as an index, then fill the chapters, if you feel you should say something prior, add it to a prior chapter, check google scholar for sources and whatever, pepper it with some graphics/pictures (google will help with the "free for reuse" setting) or make some yourself [07:05]
KekSi tbh that's just very easy and for a bsc thesis you should stick to about 40ish pages (depending on your major obviously) [07:06]
sonOfRa The problem is that I picked a topic that is actually interesting and involves actual work. [07:06]
Faux Fool! [07:06]
KekSi exactly, why would you! [07:07]
KekSi you're not supposed to write a doctoral/phd thesis [07:07]
KekSi so scratch the surface, give a good introduction and conclude that this needs more time and effort, point out some things that are of particular interest and why they are of interest to your field/humanity whatever [07:08]
sonOfRa Yes, I too have taken a writing techniques course. [07:08]
KekSi just getting depressed and putting your head in the sand is not very helpful [07:08]
KekSi but you have no problem shittalking with us here so i doubt writing a thesis will be much harder [07:08]
KekSi i've known a lot of people who struggled with writing one over the years but it's really easy -- you don't even have to build proper sentences yet, write down your ideas, bring them in order and fill out the bla-bla later [07:09]
KekSi if that's what's holding you back from finishing your degree then maybe just take the friday of next week off, shut yourself in and just do it over this 4 day weekend [07:11]
KekSi i'm sure you can do it and if you need help formulating or proof-reading let me know, if i can find the time i'll gladly help you out [07:12]
KekSi what sort of timeframe do you get at your uni? for my bsc back then it was 10 weeks and the actual writing took maybe 1 or 2 (because i was a newbie and re-wrote the entire thing pretty much twice or so) - by the time my msc rolled around it was 6 months and the actual writing was still less than 2 weeks [07:16]
sonOfRa 4months, but the general rule is that you start before you officially start [07:25]
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acuzio so i managed to find myself in a situation where i havent eaten anything and cant till fucking 5.30 at least [08:38]
KekSi so .. 4 more hours..? [08:39]
acuzio 2 more [08:40]
acuzio i am in Bucharest [08:40]
KekSi oh, right [08:49]
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acuzio And we are going out with the team [09:37]
acuzio not that i have any choice in the fucking matter [09:37]
Faux I wonder where acuzio is. [09:37]
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acuzio are you being facetious again [09:40]
acuzio Bucharest, Romania [09:40]
acuzio Home of the beautiful women [09:40]
acuzio went to customer site , lady at reception is quite literally model class [09:41]
acuzio Like literally she would be a model anywhere else [09:41]
Faux I don't think "Model Class" is a recommended class in our classless society, acuzio. [09:42]
acuzio My colleague just went "Oh My God" like to her face when she walked up to take us to the meeting room [09:43]
freeone3000 wow [09:53]
freeone3000 you don't do that to people. [09:53]
freeone3000 I see where he gets it now. [09:53]
freeone3000 Anyway. So that Square Enix conference. [09:54]
freeone3000 FFXIV expansion! I'm stoked. And guys, what about that Octopath Traveller for PC? I'm excited about that since I'll finally get to play it. [09:55]
freeone3000 And there might have been some FFVII stuff in there too who knows [09:55]
Maldivia and FF8! [09:56]
freeone3000 Oh, right, they remembered FF8 existed! [09:56]
ron what did they say about FF8? [09:56]
freeone3000 They're doing a remaster which changes literally nothing, and doesn't even put it in widescreen. It was widescreen on my Vita, which makes me wonder what exactly they're running it on. [09:56]
Maldivia FF8 remastered, this year [09:56]
ron remastered? meh [09:57]
freeone3000 It's not even "remastered", really, it's just... a rerelease with slightly better textures. Think the FFIX remaster. [09:57]
ron kinda wish they focused on new games than remastering the shit out of older ones. [09:57]
freeone3000 ron: Well, Octopath Traveller for PC. [09:57]
freeone3000 And FFVII is basically a new game. [09:57]
ron could care less about octopath [09:57]
Maldivia freeone3000: you mean 4 new games :D [09:58]
ron and FFVII is a remake, not remastered [09:58]
freeone3000 You could just say "I don't care about square enix" and save yourself the trouble of being in this conversation. [09:58]
ron which is why I appreciate it [09:58]
ron no, I do care about SE, and looking forward to FFVII remake, but would have much preferred to hear about FFXI than FFVIII. [09:58]
Maldivia I really liked FF8 though [09:59]
freeone3000 FFXIV, you mean? [09:59]
ron yeah [09:59]
freeone3000 New race, the Viera. new race, nobody cares. New class, the shadowborn. Fixes. new raid. Better skin effects with markings and tattoos. [09:59]
ron im barely awake [09:59]
freeone3000 They've now altered several additional helmet models for certain types of hair/helmet interactions. [10:00]
freeone3000 The important stuff, y'know. [10:00]
ron Maldivia: I did too, but there's way too many reliance these days on older games, and SE is a money milking machine when it comes to it. [10:00]
acuzio freeone3000: Its Romania .., you will notice that standards are slacker in parts of the world [10:01]
freeone3000 They're also doing some stuff with Dragon Quest Builder, and there's a new game in the Life is Strange universe. [10:01]
freeone3000 And there's also Oninaki, which has key art in the style of Tite Kubo but isn't in their final fantasy engine or a final fantasy-alike engine, it's a new thing, but... I'm not yet sold. [10:02]
freeone3000 And some shit with the avengers nobody cares. [10:02]
freeone3000 The first three I'm absolutely sold on. [10:03]
freeone3000 or. maybe not sold. since I'm still playing through a bit of Sunless Skies. [10:03]
freeone3000 which is like, Sunless Sea, except you can turn the food/fuel consumption down to 25%, and I guess that's all I really wanted. [10:04]
freeone3000 (but also https://square-enix-games.com/en_US/games/final-fantasy-xiv-online LOOK AT THAT MI'QOTE with the new skin textures!!) [10:05]
freeone3000 ( https://square-enix-games.com/en_US/news/final-fantasy-xiv-shadowbringers-free-character-creator-available-download oh no this is dangerous ) [10:05]
acuzio did i tell you that the Project Manager for Square Enix who lead The Lara Croft Series games is my mate [10:06]
freeone3000 acuzio: Oh. Cool. [10:08]
acuzio freeone3000: he went and joined MongoDB cause he says the gaming industry is dead ., its not about fun any more [10:12]
KekSi doesn't square enix own tomb raider? [10:14]
KekSi the newer one i played i found to be quite good [10:14]
fotato they publish it. [10:14]
ron ok, just saw SE's FFVIII remastered reveal video and wtf. [10:15]
freeone3000 Individually I think the games are quite good, but if you've played one of them and it's alright. [10:15]
freeone3000 ron: TIFA [10:15]
ron what about tifa? [10:15]
freeone3000 what fucking not about tifa [10:16]
KekSi tifa is ff7 [10:16]
KekSi not 8 [10:16]
ron how the fuck is tifa related to FFVIIII? [10:16]
ron VIIIIIIII? [10:16]
ron VIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIX? [10:16]
freeone3000 oh right I can't read roman numerals [10:16]
freeone3000 sorry [10:16]
freeone3000 Right! So FFVIII. It's basically: Yeah you can buy this now in case you don't want to emulate it have fun [10:16]
KekSi i'm not even sure i ever finished ff8 [10:17]
ron there are very few FF's I've finished. [10:17]
KekSi i think i quit right before the end or something [10:17]
KekSi 7 i've gone through several times [10:18]
KekSi 13 or whatever that was on ps3 with the vanilla character and her pink hair i quit halfway through when i apparently didn't grind enough and then went down some path where i just kept dying and had no way back and no way of re-starting back at the grind-y area [10:19]
KekSi which was retarded [10:20]
KekSi but i wasn't invested enough in the japanese-y story to start over or anything [10:20]
KekSi tbh i probably wouldn't have cared about any ff games at any other time in my lilfe aside from 7 which came out when i was 15 and it was the absolutely best graphics around [10:21]
ron ff13 is a bit too linear and easy to finish. [10:22]
fotato i stopped playing ff8 when they went to space for no apparent reason [10:22]
fotato i think that's like, a common trope in ff games? [10:23]
fotato 'now we must go to space for no apparent reason' [10:23]
ron could be, never thought about it [10:23]
fotato those colour changing monsters were 1) what the fuck why are they here 2) what the fuck this is just some utter bullshit. [10:23]
ron though I don't recall going to space in ff9 and ff12. [10:23]
fotato and the story just made, no, sense. [10:23]
freeone3000 Going to World 2 is absolutely a trope. Sometimes it's better, like FFIV and the Ex-World or FFIX and The Land Above The Mists. [10:24]
fotato but it was done so..... almost reluctantly? [10:25]
fotato the characters were like [10:25]
freeone3000 ya gotta do it [10:25]
fotato 'oh. so now we must go to space' [10:25]
fotato 'yes' [10:25]
freeone3000 ya gotta have a chocobo ya gotta have a cid ya gotta go to world 2 [10:25]
fotato 'for the reason that we must go' [10:25]
fotato 'yes. to space' [10:25]
KekSi well the giant monsters in ff13 where i kept dying were pretty much like the fight against the WEAPON monsters in ff7 [10:26]
freeone3000 The games don't share characters or mechanics or story or theme or art style, so they gotta share *something* [10:26]
KekSi where you just attach whenever possible and spend 99% of the time healing yourself against something with millions and millions of hitpoints [10:27]
ron KekSi: I didn't recall them tbh [10:27]
ron don't* [10:28]
ron so tired, sorry. [10:28]
KekSi i followed a path through some caves away from the wide open area where you could grind [10:28]
ron I don't even recall grinding areas [10:28]
KekSi apparently i didn't grind enough because right away every fight was a lot harder than it was before [10:28]
ron I don't recall almost anything [10:29]
fotato i guess up until recently zelda games were the tropiest tropes that ever troped [10:29]
KekSi i think the first time after the very linear bits? some wide-open area? [10:29]
fotato and they were still amaze [10:29]
fotato KekSi: the overworld in FF games is almost always entirely free-roamable [10:29]
KekSi actually have breath of the wild at home and haven't played it that much [10:30]
fotato ! [10:30]
fotato WHY [10:30]
KekSi feels more aimless and less captivating [10:30]
fotato aaaaaaAAAAAAAA [10:30]
KekSi than any zelda game i've played before [10:30]
fotato well yes, you're not being funneled from point A to point B [10:30]
KekSi which aren't that many (NES/SNES/gameboy, that's it, really) [10:30]
fotato the sense of actually being in an adventure is unlike any open world game i've ever played before. [10:31]
fotato there's so much actual stuff. not collectibles, not instances of the same fucking mission types, just, unexpected interactions, genuinely cool things happening [10:31]
fotato not even skyrim captured that as well. [10:32]
fotato and skyrim did it pretty well. [10:32]
freeone3000 really? I found skyrim to be a rather boring place. [10:33]
KekSi skyrim at least captivated me [10:33]
fotato it was sort of fun to wander around aimlessly, mainly getting mauled by bears [10:33]
KekSi somehow botw doesn't really [10:33]
fotato and then angering the giants. [10:34]
sonOfRa skyrim space program. [10:34]
KekSi P [10:34]
fotato note that i still haven't actually _completed_ either skyrim or botw. [10:34]
fotato but seriously KekSi you owe it to yourself to put more time into botw. [10:35]
KekSi once my girlfriend moves out, maybe [10:36]
KekSi i'll also have to finish super mario odyssey [10:36]
KekSi which has been a lot of fun tbh after such a long time with no mario games (i think last i played was mario 64 which was.. a while ago) [10:37]
fotato odyssey is a masterpiece but for entirely different reasons to botw [10:37]
KekSi also new super mario bros (2d) [10:37]
freeone3000 That is a bad name for a video game. [10:37]
KekSi which is super hard with 2 or more 2 players i find [10:37]
fotato honestly i'm just so happy nintendo still make games [10:37]
KekSi at least compared to little big planet [10:37]
KekSi oh well, imma go home to more trouble with my girlfriend [10:43]
fotato good luck [10:44]
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freeone3000 oh no there's a flight simulator insider build [11:21]
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fotato of course there is. [11:31]
fotato fast/slow tracks? [11:31]
freeone3000 nope, just regular. [11:32]
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freeone3000 I just find it interesting they're treating Microsoft Flight Simulator like a business product instead of like a game. [11:38]
freeone3000 Oh. This is because they're. Acutally products. That just happen to be games because they can sell a few hundred thousand more copies that way for basically some marketing. [11:41]
fotato is flight simulator used in any commercial training applications? [11:52]
freeone3000 It's not certified, so it can't be, but it is rumored some commercial training applications use the simulation engine as a base. [11:54]
sonOfRa The visuals they had at e3 looked pretty fucking impressive [11:54]
sonOfRa Not the game I'd play, but holy shit it looked awesome [11:55]
fotato u look awesome [11:56]
tang^ thanks hon [11:56]
freeone3000 It's an X-Plane competitor, for sure. [11:56]
fotato Raining all day yesterday and the building doesn?t roll out the rain mats in the lobby, but instead is mopping like crazy. Today it?s gloriously sunny and the mats are rolled out. [12:00]
fotato Building management r u ok [12:00]
Stummi in germany we had really bad hailstorms yesterday [12:01]
Stummi https://www.reddit.com/r/de/comments/bz5111/kleiner_hagel_in_bayern/ [12:01]
fotato We had helicopter-shaped hail yesterday. [12:01]
fotato https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/helicopter-crash-nyc-pilot-in-deadly-helicopter-crash-in-midtown-manhattan-monday-identified-as-tim-mccormick/ [12:02]
fotato Poor guy burned to death. [12:02]
fotato nintendo direct time, freeone3000 [12:14]
freeone3000 I'm watching [12:15]
freeone3000 COLLECTION OF MANA TODAY!? [12:16]
freeone3000 Hold on WITCHER on SWITCH [12:16]
fotato i guess i'm buying that now? [12:16]
freeone3000 The Switcher! [12:16]
fotato the whole collection or just 3/ [12:16]
freeone3000 fotato: Just 3 [12:16]
freeone3000 Because 1 and 2 are... not as good. 1 in particular did not age well, and would be completely imicible to anything but mouse&keyboard [12:16]
fotato man this is like 'yo we heard you like rpgs' [12:17]
freeone3000 I fucking do tho [12:17]
fotato right? [12:17]
sonOfRa So I guess nintendo is gonna win e3 this year? [12:18]
freeone3000 no still devolver digital [12:18]
sonOfRa (just like every year) [12:18]
sonOfRa Oh right I didn't watch that yet [12:18]
freeone3000 it's so. so. so good. [12:18]
freeone3000 They only announced eight games, but two dropped today and one's a fucking arcade cabinet. [12:18]
fotato i didnt think it was as good as last year's [12:18]
freeone3000 fair, it's hard to top LOOTBOXCOIN [12:19]
fotato didnt resident evil already drop? [12:19]
freeone3000 i think this is a port of the remake not a port of the original [12:19]
fotato yeah, they released that already [12:19]
fotato the remakes [12:19]
freeone3000 oh no this is the racist one [12:20]
freeone3000 5 and six. [12:20]
fotato oh [12:20]
fotato huh [12:20]
fotato they were pretty shit [12:20]
freeone3000 "That might not be my way to play, but you can find your way to play, don't you think?" So wholesome. [12:20]
freeone3000 suda51!? [12:20]
freeone3000 zero to fucking ridiculous in like 5 seconds YO [12:21]
fotato this was teased last time wasnt it [12:21]
fotato more story this time [12:21]
fotato wait no, that was the flying robots game [12:21]
fotato this is.... a new no more heroes? [12:21]
freeone3000 YES! [12:21]
fotato nice. [12:21]
freeone3000 Liberation Maiden was also good. Suda51 is just. A genius. [12:22]
fotato the last no mo heroes wasnt. [12:22]
sonOfRa cyborg panda. [12:22]
fotato CONTRA [12:22]
freeone3000 what no no this can't be no. [12:22]
fotato nintendo wins e3 again. [12:23]
freeone3000 I do not remember Contra being like this. [12:23]
freeone3000 Oh wait hold on ALL THE CONTRAS YES [12:23]
fotato awwwww yiss this one [12:23]
sonOfRa I really need a switch, don't I [12:23]
freeone3000 oh is this the metal-wolf-chaos-alike? [12:23]
freeone3000 sonOfRa: If you want to play games that are made to be fun games. [12:24]
fotato this is the one i thought the other one was. [12:24]
freeone3000 This looks like ACE? [12:24]
fotato might as well wait for the inevitable winter hardware refresh tho sonOfRa [12:24]
sonOfRa But I also want a 3900x or 3950x, and with that a new board and RAM and SSD [12:24]
freeone3000 Daemon x Machina SO GOOD. Oh, and it's Marvelous AQL, so that's nice. [12:24]
sonOfRa So maybe winter. [12:24]
freeone3000 sonOfRa: Yeah, precisely. Wait for the pocket version. [12:25]
fotato switch go! [12:25]
fotato and switch pro! [12:25]
fotato is this.... panzer dragoon [12:25]
freeone3000 he's fighting panzers on a dragoon so [12:25]
fotato hahahah [12:25]
sonOfRa Also pokemon, so yeah gotta get a switch [12:25]
fotato gotta switch em all! [12:25]
freeone3000 I don't think I want the new pokemon. [12:25]
fotato i'm not a huge pokemon nut. [12:26]
freeone3000 I think the new girl with the trenchcoat makes for good rule34 wtih the female protagonist, but I don't... think I need more pokemon. [12:26]
fotato the sheep is adorable tho [12:26]
freeone3000 the sheep has been lewd'd to heck and back [12:26]
fotato "something good might happen!" is like.... the nintendo slogan. [12:27]
freeone3000 oh the new character design for the gym leader is also really good [12:27]
freeone3000 Oh my god this game is SO JAPANESE [12:28]
fotato aaaaaaa [12:28]
fotato is this the a new world ends with new [12:28]
fotato you [12:28]
fotato no it can't be [12:28]
freeone3000 this so *so* *so* japanese [12:28]
fotato it's really pretty. [12:28]
freeone3000 tactical. zettai. ryouki. [12:28]
fotato OR MAYBE I SHOULD SAY [12:29]
fotato A CURSE [12:29]
fotato well that was a little bit melodramatic. [12:29]
freeone3000 astral chain is p good [12:30]
freeone3000 like I want to play pokemons. [12:30]
freeone3000 except not pokemons. [12:30]
freeone3000 oh this is a new mafia. blah. [12:30]
fotato monster hunter? [12:30]
fotato isnt Not Pokemon just monster hunter? [12:30]
freeone3000 no, that's different. astral chain is what I'm thinking of, where you capture them. [12:30]
fotato it's a.... strategy mafia. [12:30]
fotato aha. [12:30]
freeone3000 Mafia had strategy and territory elements, no? [12:30]
fotato ooooooooo marvel game. [12:30]
fotato no idea, never played. [12:31]
freeone3000 I do not want another marvel game I do not care I am out. [12:31]
fotato hahahah. [12:31]
fotato i dunno, this looks fun [12:31]
freeone3000 It looks like that old X-men sidescrolling beat-em-up. [12:31]
fotato it's marvel's diablo [12:31]
sonOfRa oooh, necrodancer 2? [12:31]
freeone3000 okay yeah no I've already got both diablo, diablo 2, diablo 3, and path of exile, I do not need another diablo [12:32]
sonOfRa Legend of Necrozelda? [12:32]
fotato yaya [12:32]
fotato haha [12:32]
fotato oh yeah we knew this was happening sonOfRa [12:32]
sonOfRa I did not [12:32]
fotato probably release date [12:32]
sonOfRa I want [12:32]
freeone3000 I want that so much [12:32]
freeone3000 If I order it now I'll get it by Friday [12:32]
fotato well it's out... .like tomorrow [12:32]
fotato order it on the eshop [12:33]
fotato what the hell is this. [12:33]
freeone3000 It's the olympics tie-in this year. [12:33]
freeone3000 They always do one. It's. Fine. [12:33]
fotato it looks like something i dont want. [12:33]
fotato aaaaaa [12:34]
fotato aaaaaaaaaaa [12:34]
fotato ANIMAL FUCKING CROSSING [12:34]
freeone3000 huh. this is like animal crossing, but with harvest moon mechanics? [12:35]
fotato it sort of always had a little gentle farming. [12:35]
fotato hahaha [12:35]
fotato fuck you, tom nook [12:35]
fotato animal crossing is just the best bedtime game. [12:36]
freeone3000 I've been doing Rune Factory 4. Which is Harvest Moon if Harvest Moon was also a dungeon crawling RPG [12:36]
freeone3000 Like literally actually harvest moon too though. [12:36]
freeone3000 Hold on is that My Friend Pedro? [12:37]
fotato so just play uh stardew valley [12:37]
fotato because it also has a dungeon crawler [12:37]
fotato yeah my friend pedro is coming to switch, you didnt know? [12:37]
fotato wow, a port of A:O? [12:37]
fotato that's pretty impressive. [12:38]
freeone3000 I didn't find Stardew Valley as well done. [12:38]
sonOfRa Oooh, maybe a decent catan game finally [12:38]
fotato uh, Alien Isolation [12:38]
fotato was that a new Tails game? [12:38]
freeone3000 Super Lucky Tale. The new Tales game was announced during Square Enix Kappa [12:39]
fotato featuring Tails the Fox? [12:39]
fotato from... Sonic? [12:39]
freeone3000 no it's uh. a different fox. [12:39]
fotato oh of course. [12:39]
fotato heh, that was a tease. [12:39]
freeone3000 DOUBLE JEBAITED [12:39]
fotato man, smash is so good. [12:40]
sonOfRa Now I want to play a Banjo game. [12:40]
freeone3000 yoko-leele came out recently. [12:41]
fotato yooka-laylee [12:41]
fotato a lizard and a bat (what's up with that?) [12:41]
sonOfRa new twilight princess stuff in botw? [12:41]
freeone3000 looks like [12:42]
freeone3000 I loved twilight princess [12:42]
sonOfRa Oh it's a sequel, not new stuff in the game [12:42]
freeone3000 ah. okay. [12:43]
sonOfRa TP was hella fun [12:43]
freeone3000 I might just wait for the sequel, then. [12:43]
fotato my body is ready. [12:43]
sonOfRa So it's gonna be a while [12:43]
fotato you haven't played botw, freeone3000 ? [12:43]
fotato worth. [12:43]
freeone3000 fotato: I do not own a swithc. [12:43]
fotato oversight. [12:43]
freeone3000 I might pick one up black friday, either the old one or the hw refresh [12:44]
freeone3000 heather is excited that she can craft without talking to an alpaca [12:47]
freeone3000 And I'm still kind of impressed they managed to do a bloodless, gunless cut of my friend pedro. [12:48]
fotato uh what. [12:49]
fotato p sure it's coming violence intact. [12:49]
freeone3000 no, I mean, for the montage [12:50]
fotato oh hah [12:50]
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sonOfRa oh you can actually play together in new animal crossing. [01:39]
acuzio Faux: So are we out yet? [02:28]
fotato yes, you are both out. congratulations on finally coming to terms with your sexuality, acuzio [02:29]
sonOfRa D [02:30]
Faux #pride week [02:30]
Faux https://i.imgur.com/UBrU7AJ.jpg [02:30]
sonOfRa T H I C C [02:31]
acuzio shakes his head [02:32]
acuzio if only [02:32]
acuzio So whats with Keanu Reeves , is he now God on Reddit? [02:32]
Faux I wouldn't know, I only use reddit for porn. [02:32]
sonOfRa acuzio: he's part of an upcoming video game. [02:33]
Faux https://i.imgur.com/6N5MZyw.jpg [02:37]
acuzio sonOfRa: really? [02:39]
sonOfRa Yes [02:39]
Faux He's also running for Conservative Party leader. [02:40]
acuzio sonOfRa: what game? [02:40]
ron CYBERPUNK [02:40]
sonOfRa Cyberpunk [02:40]
Faux Keanu Reeves 2077. [02:40]
Faux They killed his pet ant. [02:40]
acuzio thats harsh [02:41]
acuzio time has come for Reeves to take back control [02:41]
sonOfRa Faux: is there some kind of bounded_int<0,200> type in the rust stdlib? [02:43]
Faux Don't believe so. We don't have generics on numbers, only drop table bodil's implementation, and generic_array; which are horror. [02:44]
sonOfRa aw [02:45]
sonOfRa I was reading some ada code and thought things like that were possible in rust too [02:45]
Faux They are working on parameterisation by integers. [02:46]
sonOfRa Because that ada stuff where you can define a type as a range of integers is pretty cool. [02:47]
Faux What do you want from your integer? Defined, fast overflow? Not possible on amd64. Checked at runtime addition/subtraction/multiplication? Implementable. [02:47]
sonOfRa The latter. [02:48]
Faux Checked-at-runtime you can do. [02:48]
sonOfRa https://docs.rs/bounded-integer/0.1.1/bounded_integer/ looks at least somewhat promising [02:49]
sonOfRa sonOfRa's title: "bounded_integer - Rust" [02:49]
sonOfRa Last release 3 years ago. [02:49]
Faux That's generic_array levels of horrifying, wherein it generates effectively a variant of valid values. [02:49]
Faux Maybe it's finished. ;) [02:49]
sonOfRa oh dear [02:49]
Faux But you don't need that for runtime checking of bounds? [02:50]
Faux We have operator overloading and an optimiser. [02:50]
sonOfRa Gonna play around with that tomorrow [02:50]
sonOfRa I wonder how ada does it. [02:50]
Faux They have plenty more typesystem available, as does Scala. Rust is intentionally lacking these things. [02:53]
Faux Beyond catching problems at compile time (which is valuable, but seems unlikely), I don't see how much better than this you could get, though: https://play.rust-lang.org/?version=stable&mode=debug&edition=2018&gist=b4df9a2237039f8827678388a102f4e0 [02:55]
[twisti] https://imgur.com/gallery/INYE292 damn thats crazy [02:57]
sonOfRa Faux: yeah compile-time would be nice, but I guess that's already pretty good [02:59]
acuzio So i spent my time teaching a Senior Architect "Remote Debugging" on Intellij [03:00]
acuzio Its fucking wasted hours [03:00]
Addax it took hours? [03:00]
Maldivia https://thehackernews.com/2019/06/linux-vim-vulnerability.html - interesting [03:03]
Maldivia Maldivia's title: "Your Linux Can Get Hacked Just by Opening a File in Vim or Neovim Editor" [03:03]
acuzio Addax: well, no but i had the whole day spoiled because of it [03:06]
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tang^ aww, punkin [03:34]
whaley OURS IS THE FURY [04:00]
fotato FEEL THE RHYME [04:02]
freeone3000 HAHA I have conqured the linux bluetooth command-line interface and have managed to get sound output through my headphones! [04:08]
deepy freeone3000: that's a pyrrhic victory, bluetooth sound on linux is going to give you headaches [04:33]
deepy usually by randomly reverting to outputting through a non-bluetooth device [04:33]
fotato USA are obliterating thailand. [04:42]
tang^ what did Thailand do? [04:45]
fotato attempt to play soccer. [04:50]
fotato the score stands at 12-0 [04:50]
fotato 13-0 [04:52]
fotato and match. [04:52]
freeone3000 deepy: That's fine, it's fine, whatever, I've got a script to make my monitors at the proper positions relative to each other, I've got a script to login to my printer, I'll just have another script to fix sound. [05:02]
freeone3000 I just needed to watch a training video from my work computer and my surfacebook was in the care of IT [05:03]
whaley fotato: football, not soccer [05:07]
whaley cmon, where are you from? Alabama? [05:07]
freeone3000 And there we are, I actually learned something useful this year instead of having to sit through an hour-long presentation on how to not write passwords on sticky notes [05:08]
freeone3000 instead sat through an hour-long presentation on identity-based IAM impersonation for managed resources. Which is different! Really different! [05:08]
fotato soccer is the correct international word for it [05:10]
fotato and this is an international forum [05:10]
whaley FOADF [05:10]
fotato also: get fucked, m8 [05:10]
whaley u wot? [05:10]
fotato u [05:10]
fotato fukin [05:10]
fotato herd [05:10]
fotato me [05:10]
whaley this conversation is utter gash [05:12]
whaley I just need to go live in the UK [05:12]
fotato fuckin' try it, m8 [05:13]
whaley I need to get relocated to the London office [05:13]
fotato relocate deez. [05:13]
whaley alternatively, there's an office in Dublin I can work out of too, though that's not the UK... (but at least I'll still be in EU ROFLFLFLFLLFLF) [05:13]
fotato you can meet up with my old boss, he's lovely. [05:14]
whaley I would prefer to meet up with acuzio and break his back [05:14]
whaley MAKE HIM HUMBLE OLD COUNTRY WAY [05:14]
fotato he doesn't leave airports tho [05:15]
whaley he is right cunt isn't he [05:17]
fotato total twazzock. [05:17]
fotato do i find a bar streaming the phish summer tour opener tonight? [05:18]
whaley absolute not. have you gone mad? [05:20]
fotato what why [05:21]
fotato tomorrow night i know a bar in manhattan is streaming it but i'll be at a new england bar watching the bruins fucking obliterate the blues and cackling with glee [05:21]
whaley ZDENO CHARA [05:22]
fotato the only place i've found so far tonight for the show is in brooklyn and man i really dont wanna go brooklyn [05:22]
whaley heh... and work just decided it will give me the new 8core 32GBmem MBP [05:28]
whaley MOAR BEER [05:28]
fotato ) [05:28]
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db as a senior software engineer, I solve complex problems by procrastinating. I would stare at the code for a couple minutes, like just read it and see what it does, and then do something different. like talk shit on IRC.. have some snack. cat pictures. and then I go back to the code and the solution just jumps to my mind. [11:08]
db at least that's what I'm hoping for. [11:26]
db stares [11:26]