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javango [javango!~javango@] has joined #java-talk [12:31]
KekSi 'morning [01:31]
selckin they didn't add a json parser in default java already did they, brian goetz keeps using toJson as a record example [01:39]
selckin hehe funny how mad he got about remi talking about syntax on the serial stuff [02:09]
sonOfRa fotato: it's called FIFA not FISA! The international term is clearly football! [02:31]
sonOfRa I absolutely will die on this hill. [02:31]
KekSi no idea what both of you are talking about [03:00]
selckin commenting on openjdk mailing list posts out of boredom, another work day [03:04]
KekSi still feel like shit wiht my even more sore throat, cough and running nose :( [03:07]
selckin at least no work! [03:07]
KekSi i am at work [03:07]
selckin go to a docter stay home [03:08]
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[twisti] germans dont just stay home [03:09]
[twisti] we work until we ruined our health for good [03:09]
[twisti] jawohl! [03:10]
KekSi my doctor is on vacation and i don't know who's covering for her [03:11]
sonOfRa They typically announce that in their phone line [03:12]
db what a good reason to infect your coworkers [03:12]
selckin ofc, so they can stay home too [03:13]
selckin you got for 1 day [03:13]
KekSi right, going to do that instead of infecting my coworkers -.- [03:20]
Stummi I also have some of these coworkers. they still come in one or two days when they are clearly sick, risking infecting half of the office. Very annoying [03:40]
Faux Haha, you guys actually having doctors. So posh. [03:42]
Stummi I mean its not only that. If you get a starting common cold and say home you are fine in 3-4 days. Or you know, you decide to "pull through", and go to work and it turns into a full blown flu making you bed bound for 4 weeks [03:42]
Faux If it was going to turn into flu, it was probably going to do it anyway, I believe. [03:42]
Stummi maybe, dunno. But what you do when its onset is a large factor in how it will develop still [03:43]
Stummi Faux, don't you have any doctors in UK? [03:44]
sonOfRa Faux: it's a german thing. The common cold is a "Grippaler Infekt" [03:45]
sonOfRa The flu is "Grippe" [03:45]
sonOfRa Hence [03:45]
sonOfRa Everyone who has a cold has the flu because people cannot differentiate the two [03:45]
Stummi well, one makes you more vulnerable for the other I think. So a cold "turning" in the flu is not completely unlogical [03:45]
sonOfRa Generally unlikely. [03:46]
sonOfRa There's roughly 200-500k flu cases a year [03:47]
sonOfRa And on average, *everyone* gets a cold 1-5 times a year [03:47]
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Faux Stummi: Anywhere with population density, you have a surgery, and you would typically see the next available doctor at the surgery (so one of say four). [03:47]
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selckin meh gotta learn about security managers now, don't want too :( [08:21]
Faux Whoa, pretty hardschool old-tech. [08:22]
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freeone3000 Girl next to me has updated her summer work attire from last year's raggety short-shorts to this year's form-fitting yoga shorts. [09:26]
Faux Yisssss. [09:27]
Addax freeone3000: the question is: is such form worth fitting for external observers? [09:51]
Addax I mean, I can think of a lot of figures for whom form-fit wouldn't be the most pleasant ... [09:52]
freeone3000 Addax: Oh yes. [09:52]
freeone3000 Not as good as when she was just coming back from hiking the Canadian shield doing tree planting. [09:52]
freeone3000 But still pretty good. [09:53]
freeone3000 haha if you have a so-caleld secret document don't hold it up to the sun you moron. [10:34]
fotato TOTALLYSECRET DOC [10:38]
grug [10:41]
selckin whats the diff between 45 calendar days & 45 days [10:42]
Faux I'd expect both to be the same. Different from "working days". [10:43]
selckin i don't speak legal, but it said they have to enter into force in 45 calendar days, and if that fails in 45 days, i'm sure i'm being stupid tho :) [10:45]
Faux I think it's referring to two different 45-day windows. [10:47]
Faux So they have 90 days total. [10:47]
selckin now for the question of the day, kebab or pizza? [10:48]
ron kebab on pizza [10:52]
freeone3000 pizza. kebab does not compare. [10:52]
Faux Amen. [10:53]
fotato 45 days can be ambiguous in a business context. it might mean working days or calendar days. [10:54]
Faux The document tinyhands is holding uses both in the same paragraph. [10:54]
Faux Which is plain dumb if they have the same meaning. [10:54]
fotato ur plain, dumb. [10:56]
fotato isnt it funny how the word 'oversight' can mean two completely different things? [11:05]
freeone3000 It's like dust. [11:05]
Faux There wouldn't have been an oversight if we'd had sufficient oversight. [11:08]
fotato i wanted to use 'orthogonal' instead of 'different' but i'm not quite sure it's valid. [11:09]
Faux It is in my orthogonal dictionary. [11:10]
freeone3000 but these things are opposite, not unrelated [11:10]
fotato they're not quite opposite. [11:11]
freeone3000 the cosine similarities aren't -1 but they also aren't 0 [11:11]
fotato indeed. [11:11]
fotato nerd. [11:11]
freeone3000 huh it turns out that we actually have a guy in our lab working on embedding differing senses of words. [11:16]
freeone3000 ( in case anyone cares) [11:17]
freeone3000 freeone3000's title: "[1906.03608] Probing for Semantic Classes: Diagnosing the Meaning Content of Word Embeddings" [11:17]
fotato eshop sale is live - cuphead and hollow night are on there. [11:21]
fotato fotato's title: "Nintendo at E3 2019 - Sale" [11:21]
fotato should i get rocket league? [11:22]
freeone3000 eh. how much do you like car soccer? [11:22]
freeone3000 yikes $15 for cuphead? I got mine for eight! [11:22]
freeone3000 $14 for Celeste? [11:22]
fotato they're 'new' to switch [11:23]
fotato cuphead was only released recently [11:23]
fotato do i get katamari [11:24]
freeone3000 Have you played it before? [11:24]
fotato necrodancer is only like.... $4 [11:24]
fotato katamari? on the psp, yes. [11:24]
freeone3000 That's still literally twice the steam price for necrodancer. [11:25]
fotato yes but i can't put my computer in my pocket can i [11:25]
Faux Just never leave the house and it's not a problem. [11:26]
freeone3000 fotato: [11:26]
freeone3000 freeone3000's title: " : GPD Pocket 2 [2019 HW Update-CPU Intel m3-8100Y] 7 Inches Touch Screen Mini Laptop UMPC Tablet PC Windows 10 System lntel HD Graphics 615 8GB RAM/128G Storage : Computers & Accessories" [11:26]
Faux Office day tomorrow. Kill me. Trying to work out if the "mysterious lockup" problem on my laptop has gone away. [11:26]
fotato that's $750 [11:27]
fotato for $750 i could basically buy every interesting game for the switch for the lifetime of the machine. [11:27]
gurrkiin i have spent over that on switch games [11:28]
gurrkiin switch tax aint nothing to joke about [11:28]
freeone3000 that's the whole thing. "lifetime of the machine". innit. [11:28]
fotato let me qualify that, every interesting third party port when on sale. [11:28]
fotato tbh i'm pretty sure the switch will outlast that pc. [11:29]
gurrkiin also who wants to play with a dumb keyboard [11:29]
freeone3000 yeah fair. [11:29]
freeone3000 But I also haven't played any games on my 3DS in forever. [11:30]
freeone3000 nearly all of my gaming is when I'm at home... [11:30]
freeone3000 oh hey Rune Factory 4 is on sale [11:31]
gurrkiin me too, but playing on the couch or in bed is so good [11:33]
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freeone3000 I've mostly not been gaming with full actual games until like, this week, where I decided to do Sunless Skies and Prey: Mooncrash. [11:36]
freeone3000 I still have to finish Persona 5, for goodness's sake. [11:36]
fotato i have not finished skyrim. [11:36]
fotato at this point i'm wondering if anyone has actually finished skyrim [11:37]
freeone3000 what is "finished"? [11:37]
freeone3000 like, I'm absolutely fucking done with skyrim, if that's what you mean. [11:37]
sonOfRa freeone3000: too bad, skyrim's going to be released 28 more times over the next 8 years [11:38]
Addax I can't remember the last significant storypoint I hit in skyrim [11:38]
Addax I think it had something to do with dragons, and I got annoyed when I realized that wasn't the main story [11:38]
fotato as in, finished the main quest and a significant portion of the good sidequests. [11:38]
fotato i mean, the main quest is one to destroy a dragon [11:39]
fotato so... it kinda does have a lot to do with dragons [11:39]
fotato there's just a lot of fucking around between dragony bits. [11:39]
Addax Huh. Maybe it was the main quest I was doing [11:39]
fotato you tol to an oldass dragon at some point [11:39]
Addax I can't tell, I thought it was something to do with the nords and light-skinned elves or something [11:39]
fotato who is all 'and now you have to go into spac^W back in time. for some reason' [11:40]
Addax yeah, I didn't get there, I don't think [11:40]
fotato that'sa bout where i'm at [11:40]
Addax I tried, I just... you know [11:40]
fotato oh the stormcloaks/whoever thing is a sidequest [11:40]
fotato every bethesda game has a faction sidequest. [11:40]
fotato choosing a side grants perks at the respective camps. [11:40]
fotato that's sorta the thing with skyrim, the sidequests are _big_ - identifying the main plot quests gets messy [11:42]
freeone3000 sonOfRa: why couldn't they have chosen new vegas there [11:42]
freeone3000 ... uh. have you checked your journal, under "Main Quest"? [11:43]
fotato the whole hogwarts, uh, whatever quest is a game in itself. [11:43]
Addax hell, I'm still looking for Hero Brine in Minecraft [11:43]
fotato those appear as main quest quests, freeone3000 [11:43]
fotato iirc. [11:43]
freeone3000 I may have my skyrim install slightly modded. [11:43]
gurrkiin lol i remember playing Skyrim i got all skills lvl 100 before going up the 1k steps up to the dragonkin or whatever [11:43]
fotato choo choo, motherfucker. [11:43]
gurrkiin best quests are all the guilds tbh, mages + theives especially [11:44]
freeone3000 right, exactly. so everything's at 100. then what? I guess you finish the game. but why? it's not like anything interesting is going to happen. [11:44]
gurrkiin yeah, got bored pretty fast after that [11:44]
fotato i get bored grinding skills. [11:44]
freeone3000 Grinding skills is great! The numbers go up for a bit, but then they go down, so then they can go up again! [11:44]
freeone3000 yes I'm planning on buying the FFXIV expansion why do you ask? [11:44]
fotato after i realised archery was crazy OP i just, stealth arched everything [11:45]
freeone3000 stealth also gets sort of broken at high ranks. [11:45]
Faux freeone is totally the kind of person who would have intentionally picked non-primary skills as primary skills to ruin the levelling. [11:45]
fotato enemies running around with an arrow sticking out of their face going "HUH MUST HAVE BEEN THE WIND" [11:45]
freeone3000 Faux: In morrowwind I spent fourty-five minutes jumping off of a building to hit max level. [11:45]
Addax archery in skyrim is awesome, yes [11:45]
Addax and they have mods that add kickass bows, too [11:45]
fotato freeone3000: morrowind was also the kind of game which says 'hey walk to this next quest point. it's..... somewhere roughly here on a map, no you can't have a marker, oh and it's a two hour walk' [11:46]
fotato 'in game' [11:46]
freeone3000 yeppers. bump that. [11:47]
freeone3000 At least Sunless Skies is pretty. [11:47]
freeone3000 "Your passenger wants them to bring them to Lundanum. It's north-northeast of New Winchester [[in this game; locations are semirandomized]]" [11:47]
freeone3000 how far? who knows! what's north-northeast mean? Well, more north than northeast. [11:48]
fotato that's standard terminology [11:48]
freeone3000 yeah but you don't get... like, map markers. [11:48]
fotato you get a compass. [11:48]
fotato what more do you need!? [11:48]
freeone3000 a bat which doesn't eat half my food and actually tells me what it found! [11:48]
freeone3000 I'm currently on the lookout for a Ruined Specimen, because while I have A Tale of Imagining that I got by fixing a clock at the circus, I haven't yet managed to salvage enough for a Rocketeer Cavy. [11:49]
fotato bats can't talk bro [11:49]
freeone3000 They can here. [11:49]
fotato i should play sunless sea [11:49]
fotato i bought it and then ignored it. [11:49]
freeone3000 I suggest getting Skies instead. [11:50]
fotato really? [11:50]
fotato k [11:50]
freeone3000 Yes. So, the above thing where everything's super vague? [11:50]
freeone3000 In Sunless Seas, you're on a strict, expensive survival timer, where you can only go so far from port before your supplies and fuel run out. [11:50]
freeone3000 This is also true in Skies, except in Skies, you can turn it down to like 25% [11:50]
freeone3000 I like seas for the better environment, and I've spent more time in it, but unless I manage to figure out a Seas cheat, I'll stick with Skies. [11:51]
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whaley I like grinding [11:52]
fotato i'll add it to the wishlist, it's not on sale. [11:52]
fotato i bet you do whaley [11:52]
freeone3000 Though maybe if you already own it, play a bit of Seas, then if you decide "I really like the CONCEPT and STORYTELLING of this game, but the actual GAMEPLAY is kind of clunky and irksome", well, Skies literally fixes that. [11:52]
fotato kk. i'll play it on the flight back from greece i guess. [11:52]
Addax yeah, you guys are NERDS. [11:53]
fotato you can talk. [11:53]
Addax goes back to playing Supreme Commander, note that it's not SC2 because SC2 completely wrecked the franchise, thanks Microsoft [11:53]
fotato i never got into supcom had a friend at uni who was obsessed. [11:53]
fotato s/com/com,/ [11:53]
fotato Doom Eternal's tagline is 'Raze Hell' - that pleases me. [11:54]
whaley oh, FFVII is getting a remake [11:54]
Maldivia whaley: someone's slow :D [11:55]
whaley Maldivia: I don't exactly pay attention to gaming news [11:55]
Maldivia whaley: well, the FF7 remake has been known for quite some time now [11:55]
fotato dude you were all over mario tennis news [11:55]
whaley fotato: because I pay attention to tennis news :) [11:55]
Addax fotato: SC2 sucks [11:57]
Addax SC was great, you could see potential in teh franchise, it was like Total Annihilation except even better... and SC2 basically took all the good parts and threw them away, it's like SC for morons [11:58]
fotato noted, i'm probably never gonna play either tho [11:58]
Addax now even SC feels a bit dated - not as bad as TA but... [11:58]
whaley those games are too stressful to be enjoyable - I always hit a ceiling trying do micro and macro at the same time and just go brain dead [11:59]
whaley and I either get demolished in the field or just fail to expand [12:00]
whaley or both [12:00]
Addax I struggle with the imbalance against the computer: play the normal AI and destroy it with no challenge, play the cheating AI and get destroyed because they get to allocate so many more resources than you do [12:00]
Addax the cheating AIs overwhelm me fairly quickly: "Okay, my air defenses should be sufficie- WHAT THE F*** A NUKE" [12:01]
fotato XCOM:EU is about the right amount of strategy for me. [12:01]
whaley I think I managed to get to Silver in SC2 multiplayer [12:01]
Addax (it's really difficult to allocate resources to both air assault *and* nuclear weaponry, but the computer manages pretty easily... and should you defend against nuclear attack *and* air attack? Don't worry, the ground forces will zerg rush you soon.) [12:01]
whaley Addax: that's because they expanded and you didn't see it our scout it probably [12:02]
Addax whaley: I've actually seen what they do [12:02]
Addax it's more than expansion [12:02]
Addax they expand quickly, too, but part ofthat's because they get a ton of extra materials to work with [12:03]
Addax "Oh, I think I'll build a Metal Collector II here... with my -3 available metal. And it'll build in normal time!" [12:03]
whaley shrugs [12:04]
[twisti] i loved how much you could automate TA [12:04]
Addax it's almost like they have about 1/3rd the resource costs. I can dig it - it's supposed to be a "hard AI" - but at some point it's not really worth playing against [12:04]
[twisti] set factories to produce constructor vehicles that come out with a predefined patrol path where they walk and repair everything in range ? no problem with TA [12:04]
Addax [twisti]: TA was awesome. I really wish they'd not bothered with TA:Kingdoms, and that TA had been updated for modern hardware... TA:Spring is there, I guess, but I've never found it playable [12:05]
Addax TA was also really well balanced, even with just the krogoth [12:05]
[twisti] i wish other games took over their many inventive interface choices [12:05]
[twisti] and also SC2 was awesome so fu [12:06]
[twisti] sadly i gtg so i cant do nostalgia time and nerd rage arguing :( [12:07]
Addax SC2... supreme commander 2? [12:07]
Addax Are we talking about the same game? [12:07]
Maldivia SC2 is StarCraft 2 :D [12:09]
Addax oh [12:09]
Maldivia at least in my book [12:09]
Addax well, that's why I keep referring to the whole name :) [12:09]
fotato that's why they type supcom [12:09]
fotato to disambiguate [12:10]
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Addax I'm not leet enough for that [12:11]
fotato tang^ is here, everybody chill [12:11]
Addax I never really got into Starcraft, I didn't enjoy C&C enough to find Starcraft compelling [12:11]
fotato i just never really.... got RTs [12:11]
fotato RTS [12:11]
Addax fotato: I already deleted the punchline [12:11]
fotato ur a punchline. [12:12]
tang^ punches fotato's line [12:12]
fotato wow rude. [12:13]
tang^ oops [12:13]
ron tosses a /me at tang^ [12:14]
tang^ thanks [12:14]
fotato alt+enter on ircbutt does /me automagically [12:14]
fotato thinks that's pretty neat [12:15]
fotato s/alt/cmd/ [12:15]
tang^ yeah, ?+Enter on macOS (including Textual, too) [12:15]
ron yup [12:21]
acuzio morning ladies [12:23]
acuzio so now , Amsterdam [12:23]
acuzio i managed to extend my stay for half a day in AMS tomorrow - meaning i spend one more time [12:24]
acuzio s/time/night [12:24]
tang^ already wasted and confusing his terms [12:25]
acuzio not wasted [12:26]
acuzio not at all [12:27]
tang^ mmhmm [12:27]
acuzio Girls keep getting younger [12:28]
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acuzio I am defnly getting older [12:30]
acuzio One of them called me an "older hipster" [12:30]
acuzio I am not sure what made me angrier - older or hipster [12:34]
fotato Would you prefer ?clueless idiot? [12:38]
surial acuzio: welcome to NL then :) [12:42]
surial Addax: "SC was great, you could see potential in teh franchise, it was like Total Annihilation except even better... and SC2 basically took all the good parts and threw them away, it's like SC for morons" <- so are you talking about starcraft or supreme commander here? I'm confused. [12:43]
acuzio surial: thank you [12:43]
acuzio surial: Have to admit ., the Dutch dont mince words [12:44]
acuzio It must be the weed [12:44]
surial sounds like you are talking about supcom, though the term 'zerg rush' wasn't helping. I did play TA a loooong time ago, at the friday evening nerd-out boardgame & computer game sessions at a job a long time ago, but I vaguely recall I always sucked at it. [12:45]
surial acuzio: I hear that a lot. I like to think I'm a prime example of the dutch no bullshit style. [12:45]
acuzio I ran a session for Senior guys and they wanted to bring in their young un's to mingle, i mingled , i mean these were pretty, young things and then one of them just said "You are like one of those older, hipster guys" [12:47]
ron BALDUR'S GATE 3!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [12:49]
tang^ wut [12:50]
tang^ nice [12:50]
tang^ bioware? [12:50]
fotato acuzio: she wanted that daddy D [12:51]
Maldivia ron: I'll wait for the PC release, when it's no longer just Google Streaming [12:53]
Maldivia or well, let's see when it will be released at all [12:53]
fotato I think it?ll be a simultaneous release across pc and stadia. [12:53]
tang^ now I want to replay BG1&2 [12:54]
acuzio fotato: yeah, thats exactly it [12:56]
acuzio shakes his head [12:56]
fotato tang^: there are iOS ports [01:00]
tang^ yeah [01:00]
Addax surial: and I was speakingof supreme commander, not starcraft, but you can zerg rush in supreme commander as well [01:00]
Addax just not with the zerg themselves, obviously [01:00]
sonOfRa [01:01]
sonOfRa sonOfRa's title: "HackerNewsOnion on Twitter: "How To Save Half An Hour Every Few Years By Spending Hundreds of Hours on Your Dotfiles Setup"" [01:01]
Maldivia tang^: if you have 200h, sure [01:10]
tang^ want != able [01:10]
sonOfRa wait what? [01:11]
sonOfRa sonOfRa's title: "G Suite Updates Blog: Google Photos will stop syncing to Drive on July 10, 2019" [01:11]
Maldivia sonOfRa: yes, it was frakking annoying [01:13]
sonOfRa I honestly liked that. Now I have to upload every image manually? [01:14]
sonOfRa Or is it still *uploaded* just not part of whatever drive is? [01:15]
ron Maldivia: I just wanna see Boo again. though I know, unlikely. [01:24]
Maldivia doubt it [01:25]
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ron Maldivia: BUT I WANT BOO! [01:27]
Maldivia Minsk and Boo [01:27]
ron BOO! [01:28]
fotato what the fuck are you lot gabberin' on about. [01:35]
tang^ really, Boo is the key to that pair. [01:36]
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ron of course, without Boo, Minsk is a wuss. [01:40]
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ron fotato: [01:41]
ron ron's title: "Minsc - 10 - Go For The Eyes Boo - YouTube" [01:41]
fotato k [01:43]
Maldivia well I'm waiting for Sting now instead [01:53]
freeone3000 sonOfRa: It's uploaded to Photos but not to Drive. [02:09]
freeone3000 Is boo like Chitika for the olds? [02:10]
tang^ the advertising company? [02:12]
freeone3000 "Hey, Chitika, go for the optics!" from Tali. [02:35]
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freeone3000 my twitter timeline is entirely Tifa Lockhart and Zelda. And I'm fine with that. [02:47]
freeone3000 The book I'm reading has a section on "Margarine Crimes". Nice. [03:43]
freeone3000 man I want to get a slice of pizza on the way home but I still have leftover stir-fry. Being an adult is hard. [03:46]
tang^ ah, that got me closer to the source [03:50]
tang^ Chatika vas Paus is the drone's name [03:52]
tang^ from the Mass Effect wiki: When Chatika is summoned, Tali will occasionally cry, "Go for the optics, Chatika! Go for the optics!", a reference to Baldur's Gate II's Minsc, who shouts, "Go for the eyes, Boo! Go for the eyes!" to Boo, his miniature giant space hamster. [03:53]
freeone3000 miniature giant? [03:53]
Maldivia miniature "giant space hamster" [03:56]
freeone3000 In Mass Effect, you can buy a regular Space Hamster. [03:56]
tang^ oh did that get cut off? sorry [03:57]
tang^ yes, Boo is a "miniature giant space hamster" [03:57]
freeone3000 Okay, but they take place at Baldur's Gate. Which is in Forgotten Realms, not in space. [03:58]
freeone3000 And a miniature giant hamster is regular hamster sized. [03:58]
freeone3000 So the dude has a hamster? [03:58]
tang^ yes he does [03:58]
tang^ you can see it in the picture displayed in ron's youtube link above [04:00]
Maldivia [04:01]
tang^ definitely my favourite companions [04:05]
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freeone3000 oh hey we're opening up an AI thing in Louisville [04:44]
tang^ want some glue to close it again? [04:45]
freeone3000 nah. I'm considering going there. It's warmer in Kentucky. [04:48]
freeone3000 I could probably buy a house and a car for what I'm paying in rent. [04:48]
tang^ fancy [04:53]
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