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selckin do it! [02:31]
acuzio morning ladies [03:18]
Faux Do a flip! [03:22]
Maldivia ..I.. [03:28]
Maldivia flip enough? [03:29]
sonOfRa morning [03:29]
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acuzio Faux: Welcome PM BoJo [08:43]
acuzio I am so looking forward to it [08:44]
sonOfRa haha [08:46]
fotato We?re nearly at idiocracy. [08:46]
acuzio "nearly" [08:53]
acuzio what part is not? [08:53]
fotato Starbucks blowjobs. [08:54]
acuzio Ok you win [08:55]
fotato I could go for a latte right now [08:55]
sonOfRa hurr [08:55]
sonOfRa Oh wait that's only a hurr in german, nvm [08:55]
acuzio I am also sad that Esther McVey is gone [08:57]
acuzio I mean she was the only good looking one , top tits [08:57]
acuzio and if you squint hard enough , lovely legs as well [08:59]
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acuzio Faux: are you being invited to become his right hand man ? [09:03]
fotato It?s such a dreary day. [09:04]
sonOfRa Germany's top administrative court struck down a state's ban on shredding male chickens today! [09:05]
fotato So uh [09:05]
fotato Now what [09:06]
fotato Oh wait. [09:06]
sonOfRa Now they will continue to be shredded! [09:06]
fotato I mean there?s not much else to do with them. [09:06]
sonOfRa You can buy eggs these days where the box says they didn't kill the male ones [09:07]
sonOfRa Except those are expensive so noone buys them [09:07]
acuzio What about PM Cunt [09:08]
acuzio heh heh [09:08]
acuzio that would be awesomer [09:08]
acuzio PM Cunt [09:08]
acuzio time for reboot [09:15]
acuzio dont worry Faux i will be back [09:15]
acuzio we can do this [09:15]
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sonOfRa is acuzio drunk? [09:16]
db well then ear more male chicken I guess [09:19]
db *eat [09:19]
sonOfRa Not that easy. They generally get shredded before edible, because they grow more slowly [09:20]
db can't we genetically engineer them to have only girl babies and then eat those? [09:20]
sonOfRa The court ruled effectively that, under current law, shredding male chickens is permissible, if they wanted to ban it they'd have to change the law instead of adding a ban by decree [09:20]
sonOfRa db: something like that is in the works (deciding whether or not a chicken is male while still in the egg) [09:22]
sonOfRa And then shredding the eggs instead of the hatched chicken [09:22]
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acuzio ping [09:25]
acuzio Uh.. wha? [09:25]
acuzio hey Faux do you prefer PM Cunt? [09:27]
fotato he's in amsterdam, so he's more likely trippin' balls on mushroom toast [09:29]
fotato and high as a kite. [09:29]
acuzio I am not high... [09:29]
acuzio I _was_ high [09:30]
sonOfRa you seem a bit drunk, that's why I asked, but maybe it's just normal acuzio [09:30]
acuzio well yesterday - had a space cake and boom ., whoopah [09:30]
acuzio sonOfRa: nope , not drunk - i am bored [09:30]
acuzio my work is finished ,so dont know what to do - have a flight later in the evening , meeting got cancelled [09:30]
acuzio so just fucking about [09:31]
acuzio its too cold to do anything [09:31]
sonOfRa weather amsterdam [09:31]
sonOfRa Weather for Amsterdam, Netherlands | 61 F (16 C) | humidity at 59 | light rain | Thu, 13 Jun 2019 15:31:37 +0200 [09:31]
sonOfRa No it's not [09:31]
acuzio rain [09:32]
acuzio and i dont like walking around in the rain [09:32]
sonOfRa There's a german saying "Are you made of sugar?" [09:32]
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acuzio yeah its German saying and we all know about ze Germans [09:33]
acuzio So whats the VPS that was recommended before ? [09:34]
fotato motion to ban acuzio til he's fuckin' sober [09:34]
acuzio ban me post the VPS recommendation and i am not drunk [09:35]
fotato well there's something more than usually fucked in your head today [09:36]
acuzio I was high earlier [09:37]
acuzio may be thats still in the stream [09:37]
fotato youtube-dl is scarily polished. [09:44]
fotato it's so _smart_ [09:44]
fotato and works with soundcloud! [09:44]
freeone3000 This is what happens when you disable "Save Video As..." in your web player - a concerted, decades-long open source project to re-enable it. [09:45]
fotato also discovered mixlr recently [09:48]
fotato it's likely ancient judging by their legacy ios app. still a nice site [09:48]
fotato i guess it's been upstaged by twitch [09:48]
freeone3000 Bah. My kindle buttons are starting to go wonky after only four years. [09:49]
fotato i really, really like my shitlord kindle [09:49]
fotato they recently made it waterproof [09:49]
freeone3000 oh. nice. [09:50]
freeone3000 I don't knwo what I'd do with that. Shower books? [09:50]
fotato tempted to upgrade but the battery cover is no longer sold with it, and it's not compatible with the old one. so i'll just run this one into the ground. [09:50]
fotato reading in the bath [09:50]
freeone3000 somehow people managed to do that with paper books, which are not waterproof. [09:50]
sonOfRa https://twitter.com/TheTNHoller/status/1138948972251373569 oh dear. [09:51]
sonOfRa sonOfRa's title: "The Tennessee Holler on Twitter: "NEW VIDEO: @knoxsheriff's Detective Grayson Fritts - also a pastor - calls for the government to arrest and EXECUTE LGBTQ People. He's on paid sick leave until July 19, and no longer on active duty. As reported by @knoxnews. pic.twitter.com/lBYLhG1ynx"" [09:51]
fotato right, but drop a paper book into your bath and you lost $10 [09:51]
fotato drop your shitlord kindle in the bath and you lost $400 [09:51]
fotato sonOfRa: this is what happens when you ignore the very explicit church/state separation statutes in the FUCKING CONSTITUTION [09:52]
freeone3000 uh, so, there's no religious test here, and congress is making no law with regard to the establishment of religion here, so unfortunately the constitution does not help with regard to religion [09:53]
fotato sigh. [09:54]
fotato > invalid Date (dd MMM yyyy) [09:58]
fotato what the fuck do they want [09:58]
sonOfRa 02 Feb 2009 [09:58]
fotato ah got it [09:58]
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freeone3000 https://www.cnet.com/news/e3-2019-microsoft-says-xbox-project-scarlett-and-halo-infinite-coming-2020-xcloud-public-test-this-fall/ are people excited for xcloud? [10:13]
acuzio no [10:14]
acuzio ok well i am not [10:14]
fotato is it a coincidence that xbone was Scorpio and the new xbox is Scarlett? [10:16]
fotato both starting with SC [10:16]
freeone3000 fotato: No. [10:16]
freeone3000 The next console will also get a codename starting with "Sc" [10:16]
fotato oh, OG xbone was Durango, Scorpio was xbonex [10:16]
fotato interesting, why? [10:17]
freeone3000 To group generations. [10:17]
freeone3000 Things that are like each other in Xbox get similar codenames. It makes it easier. [10:17]
fotato MS consider xbonex part of the same generation as scarlett? [10:17]
fotato so what about Durango? [10:17]
freeone3000 That ran last-gen stuff. [10:17]
freeone3000 The Xbox One X was the new console, everyone just got confused because it was 100% forwards and backwards compatible. [10:18]
fotato wait i'm confused. scarlett is not a generational leap? [10:18]
freeone3000 What does that even mean anymore? [10:18]
fotato I DONT KNOW [10:18]
freeone3000 Like previously it meant "all your games broke" except that that's not been true for the 360->Xbox One? And the "mid-gen refresh" where literally every component was replaced didn't make that happen either. [10:19]
fotato with the PS3 it didnt. until it did. [10:19]
fotato but like they achieved that by literally shoehorning a ps2 into it. [10:19]
freeone3000 The PS3 was an architecture made by aliens. [10:19]
fotato wasn't it amazing? [10:19]
freeone3000 It was! [10:19]
fotato i loved the initial double ended dildo design for the controller [10:20]
freeone3000 But xboxes are ... they're basically windows PCs with an integrated graphics card where main system ram is GDDR and the onboard graphics card happens to be a Jaguar APU [10:20]
freeone3000 scarlett is promising a new processor, better grpahics card (remember: same chip), possibly a new network adapter, more RAM, and an SSD instead of a HDD [10:21]
freeone3000 why in the world would they break any backwards compatibility for that? [10:21]
fotato except the 360 [10:22]
fotato which was.... i dont know what that was. [10:22]
freeone3000 The 360 was PowerPC. It was weird. [10:23]
freeone3000 But I speculate that Scarlett will be less of a disruption than even the Xbox One X. [10:24]
fotato i sort of hope sony drop the numbers for the next ps [10:26]
fotato PS5 looks dumb and also why even number them this way. [10:27]
freeone3000 with sequential numbers, increasining monotonically per generation? [10:30]
freeone3000 dunno. makes too much sense. [10:31]
fotato i accidentally linked https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQlIPOTbuH8 at work how mad are HR gonna get? [10:32]
fotato fotato's title: "Why The Dad Bod Is Worse Than Ebola - YouTube" [10:32]
acuzio PS6 in 2025 [10:35]
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freeone3000 fotato: https://thenextweb.com/gaming/2019/06/12/microsoft-project-scarlett-backwards-compatibility-four-generations/ for public article confirming that Scarlett will not only run Xbox One games, it will still run the dang Xbox 360 and *Xbox* games that already are marked as "compatible" [10:38]
freeone3000 freeone3000's title: "Microsoft's Project Scarlett might be the most backwards-compatible console ever" [10:38]
freeone3000 can you just imagine buying a new gaming console, sticking in a game DVD from 2005 in there, and it working? [10:38]
fotato i assume it will have enough power to straight up emulate 360 games [10:39]
freeone3000 That's how it already works on the Xbox One. [10:39]
fotato i thought they were recompiled bins? [10:39]
freeone3000 right, of course. [10:39]
fotato so, not emulation [10:39]
freeone3000 Hey, the blues did really well! Boston sucks. Great sports. [10:39]
fotato yeah. [10:40]
ron morning [10:41]
fotato phish were playing STL last night, blues won during setbreak. the second set turned super celebratory, crowd sounded amped. [10:41]
Faux What did that guy bet on? [10:41]
fotato howdiddly, ronno [10:41]
fotato oh shit, i think he bet on the blues. [10:42]
Faux Bet he was partying hard. [10:43]
ron power is partiallyy out. sad. [10:45]
fotato anyone going to bonnaroo? [10:46]
Faux bone a ron? [10:47]
fotato ronaroo [10:47]
ron tired. [10:50]
acuzio bad planning this [10:52]
waz I know someone going but I'm not [11:00]
acuzio wait , where are you all going? [11:00]
fotato away. [11:00]
fotato from you. [11:00]
fotato what about any of phish's summer tour? i'll be at Alpine and Dick's [11:01]
fotato and the JRAD shows before those. [11:01]
freeone3000 That reminds me - I'm actually going to attend Osheaga this year. [11:02]
ron you realize you're the only one with a phishbone here don't you, fotato [11:03]
fotato who knows ronno [11:04]
fotato who knows [11:04]
acuzio waz: whats this meetup ? [11:05]
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fotato freeone3000: beach house, gambino, dj kose, flume, interpol, janelle monae, metric, rufus del sol, sebastian, tame impala, chemical bros? fuck yeah. [11:07]
fotato although fucking hell avoid fucking kurt vile [11:07]
fotato fucking twat with shit fans. [11:07]
freeone3000 fotato: And it's *in town*! [11:08]
waz acuzio https://www.bonnaroo.com [11:08]
waz waz's title: "Bonnaroo Music & Arts Festival Manchester, TN | June 13-16, 2019" [11:08]
fotato i have never been to a worse concert than a kurt vile show in brooklyn [11:09]
fotato and i've seen S-Club 7. [11:09]
freeone3000 don't stop, never give up... [11:10]
acuzio ta waz [11:12]
freeone3000 omg porter let me print my boarding passes [11:14]
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acuzio porter? [11:22]
whaley stout [11:22]
fotato not for the summer. [11:26]
acuzio clearly no [11:27]
fotato although i've had some weird sours that were sort of stout and that worked well [11:29]
freeone3000 acuzio: The airline. [11:34]
freeone3000 The shitty, budget airline that apparently lets terrorists print their boarding passes at home. [11:34]
fotato you mean french people? [11:34]
Faux BOO FRENCH PEOPLE [11:35]
freeone3000 no, like me. I put in a trusted traveller number and apparently that overrides whatever else. [11:38]
acuzio There is an airline called Porter ? [11:41]
fotato it's one of the airlines poor people use acuzio [11:41]
acuzio Faux: So PM Bo Jo [11:42]
Faux Jo Jo. [11:42]
fotato Joris [11:42]
freeone3000 It was *so cheap*. YUL to IAD for only $300. [11:42]
Faux Yes. The racist twats have picked the racistest twattest person they could. That is not a surprise. [11:42]
acuzio So , Bo Jo [11:43]
acuzio Eddie Mair on LBC is completely dismantling Bo Jo [11:45]
acuzio I never knew we even had media persons who could ask hard questions [11:48]
Faux The level of journalism has stepped up about one notch, yes. [11:49]
ron 'we' [11:49]
Faux If anyone is signed into twitter they can see my tweet from earlier. [11:50]
Faux I am not allowed because they can't send smses apparently. [11:50]
Faux It's okay, twitter have lost it anyway. [11:51]
acuzio ron: Yea, we . i do have a British Passport as well [11:55]
ron and yet you don't consider yourself a brit, so not 'we'. [11:55]
acuzio Faux: Direct questions must require direct answers and the questions need to be based on Policy. Here is what Boris said , here is where he has done the exact opposite. What do you say ? [11:56]
Faux ? [11:56]
acuzio rhetorical [11:57]
acuzio I am playing a media person [11:57]
whaley Faux: I agree, Twitter have lost their damn minds [11:58]
acuzio One thing that Boris has started doing is staying away from direct media questions ,same like his idol the orange idiot across the pond [11:58]
whaley worse hair, which I didn't think was possible [11:59]
Faux At least we know Boris actually can form a sentence if he wants to. [12:02]
Faux I seriously doubt that tinyhands can. [12:03]
Faux Boris has actual awareness of his lying and his inconsistency. [12:03]
Faux No guilt, but awareness. [12:03]
fotato the US press is collectively shitting itself over trump's latest interview. this might actually result in something. [12:04]
Faux Did he like you know what I mean about the maybe you should look at they're great people what they mean is that they have meaning? [12:04]
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fotato he said "if a foreign power offered dirt on a 2020 dem candidate i'd probably take it" [12:05]
Faux Not dissimilar from the JOJO thing I was trying to mention earlier: "Why did you say Muslims look like letter boxes?" "The populace wants politicians who say what they mean!" *audience applauds, journalist booed* [12:06]
fotato Faux: https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-2020-election-foreign-intel-treason-1443762 [12:10]
fotato fotato's title: "#ImpeachTrumpNow Trends On Twitter: Americans Say President Committed 'Treason' by Saying He Would Take Foreign Information on 2020 Rivals" [12:10]
acuzio Whats the guarantee that this will be over by today evening cause TinyHands will say something fucky [12:17]
fotato he's already ranting on twatfest. [12:17]
acuzio or rather something _else_ fucky [12:17]
fotato https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-twitter-impeachment-flynn-sentencing-russia-investigation-obstruction-justice-a8956976.html [12:17]
fotato fotato's title: "Trump explodes over prospect of impeachment in Twitter rant 'which could amount to obstruction of justice' | The Independent" [12:17]
acuzio FWIW Faux Rory Stewart is on Eddie Mair and is not coming across as completely mad [12:18]
fotato what do i want for lunch [12:18]
Faux I have lost interest because we have no control and theey're all fucking fucked. [12:18]
fotato you should Take Back Control, Faux [12:19]
sonOfRa jesus take the wheel [12:19]
Faux Conxit. [12:19]
Faux (Labour are also fucked so a GE doesn't even help.) [12:19]
sonOfRa Elizabeth take the wheel? [12:20]
Faux I think my bet is on a miracle right now. [12:20]
sonOfRa Googled for the correct spelling of queen elizabeith. German celebrity gossip papers reporting she and philip have separated! [12:21]
acuzio they are both close to a 100 [12:21]
Faux Maybe miracles happen all the time, but we (as non-observers) don't notice? [12:22]
fotato your occasional reminder that they probably still have sex. [12:23]
Faux That's way less horrifying than the idea that YOUR MUM does. [12:24]
acuzio shakes his head [12:24]
fotato Lol ur mum [01:06]
freeone3000 Faux: I kind of want politicians who aren't racist assholes. [01:07]
freeone3000 I kind of ... don't want politicans who say what they mean. I'd prefer them to be able to couch policy statements in platitudes acceptable to all sides as a means of compromise while working within protocol channels in order to establish cooperation on matters of actual import. [01:07]
selckin then how do you vote for them [01:11]
freeone3000 Based on their record and declared goals. [01:11]
freeone3000 Or: By mail, usually. [01:11]
selckin so only lie to other politicians, don't think that'll work [01:12]
freeone3000 No, lying to the public is also important, because most people are not politicans and do not understand the degree of compromise and favor-trading required for a large body to actually get work done. [01:13]
freeone3000 If your voting bloc is entirely corporate middle-managers, then sure, they'd only have to lie to other politicans. [01:13]
freeone3000 ..which explains chuch scheumer [01:14]
selckin yeah see the point, but don't think it can ever work in the current world [01:15]
Addax selckin: an educated populace would be able to tolerate such people well [01:16]
Addax not so much as "we tolerate liars" but "we understand that getting things done often means compromise that has elements that might make us unhappy" [01:16]
freeone3000 Also you don't have to *lie*, really. None of the above is lying as in, saying things counter to the truth, but more tact and avoiding direct insult. [01:16]
Addax yeah [01:17]
Addax I'm tolerant of a politician being pragmatic, even if that means not revealing everything (there are some things for which public record would be harmful) [01:18]
freeone3000 Which reminds me, the Canadian elections are coming up soon, and we've started to get politcal ads. I watch English TV, so I get the ones for Ontario. [01:18]
Addax I don't like it AT ALL when a politician lies straight up [01:18]
Addax I was pretty much screwed in the US elections in 2016 :/ [01:18]
freeone3000 Doug Ford is up for re-election, campaigning on a reduced federal budget and tax cuts. His opponent is saying his plan will cut education funding and reduce healthcare service funding by 7%. Doug Ford says yes, yes, those are the compromises we have to make. [01:18]
freeone3000 And oh man is that nice. [01:19]
Addax bwahaha [01:19]
Addax "Yes, you understood my campaign points, thank you for demonstrating how clear it can be" [01:19]
freeone3000 I'm not going to vote for him, because he's still a windbag and he's trying to *cut education funding*, but I think some people will because they don't need no education. [01:19]
Addax Hey, we DON'T need no education! [01:19]
Addax I haaaaaated that song when it first came out, because I didn't understand the context whatsoever [01:20]
freeone3000 (our local elections are a bit more... faschy?) [01:20]
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Addax I don't know what that term means [01:20]
Addax Fascist? [01:21]
Addax (trying to match terms based on presumed phoneme matching, not very confident in that process) [01:21]
freeone3000 CAQ is promising to reduce immigration by 20% (how?), have the federal government and the quebec government use one tax form (sure, but how?), protect the french language, and prohibit public display of all religious symbols. [01:21]
freeone3000 fascist-y but not really. [01:22]
Addax ouch [01:22]
Addax yeah, okay, I understand sort of, I think [01:22]
fotato Jingoistic? [01:22]
freeone3000 yeah. [01:22]
Addax prohibit public display of religious symbols... you mean by the government, or just all display by anyone? [01:22]
freeone3000 Addax: No, government's exempt. [01:22]
freeone3000 Becuase if the government does it, they're historical symbols. [01:23]
Addax EVERYONE ELSE is prohibited from displaying religious symbols?! [01:23]
freeone3000 Addax: That's the plan, yes. [01:23]
Addax So... no church can say "we're a church?" [01:23]
Addax A synagogue can't display the mogen David? [01:23]
freeone3000 Addax: No, Christian churches are historic, or they're displaying the same civic symbol as the government, so they're not going to get prosecuted. [01:23]
Addax uh...okay, how is that supposed to work, then? [01:23]
freeone3000 ...obviously they're going to prosecute religious adherents and symbols who aren't christian [01:24]
Addax A religious symbol as displayed by the government is okay, so .. that'd be most religious symbols, so it's not really saying anything at all [01:24]
freeone3000 No, that would not be most religious symbols. [01:24]
Addax so... jews, muslims, sikhs? [01:24]
freeone3000 The government in quebec is 70% christian 30% atheist. [01:24]
freeone3000 Addax: Yes. [01:25]
Addax huh [01:26]
Addax well, we jews are used to crap like that, I imagine the sikhs are too [01:26]
Addax and quebec, being ... sort of french, well, jews in quebec are probably VERY used to it [01:26]
Addax jews in france were pretty much used as the human equivalent of toilet paper, which is why we took so strongly to germany and spain in different eras [01:27]
freeone3000 A restaurant owner received death threats for making a batch of baked beans without bacon in it. [01:27]
tang^ I... uhh [01:27]
sonOfRa freeone3000: pretty sad, similar (not quite death threat levels) happening here in germany [01:28]
sonOfRa Some school cafeterias, especially in areas with high muslim population have stopped serving pork [01:28]
sonOfRa This is an insult to germanism. [01:28]
Addax I'm pretty convinced that if Normandy had not been the most convenient landing spot for D-Day, most of the Allies would have been content to tell France to hold their horses until the war was over to be liberated [01:28]
sonOfRa How dare they starve poor german children of the essential nutrient that is pork [01:29]
Addax sonOfRa: jews in the 1800 loved germany almost as much as a people in diaspora could :( [01:29]
Addax I don't even know the history of my name outside of the place name in Germany :( [01:30]
Addax it's like we might as well have STARTED there, but we didn't. (We nearly ended there, though.) [01:30]
Addax Jews might have loved Moorish Spain a little better - maybe even Poland, but I doubt it. In Spain we thought the Muslims were going to remain beneficial overlords... but they didn't, and eventually the christians took over and handed us the inquisition, which was horror for *christians* and even worse for Jews [01:32]
sonOfRa Most synagogues are still (and not just prevantatively) under constant police protection here [01:33]
Addax I can't imagine. [01:33]
sonOfRa You'll usually have one of the "Objektschutz" (property protection?) division of the police parked at each synagogue [01:34]
Addax This is the world so many fought and died for. :( [01:34]
sonOfRa Might have to start with mosques too, now. Just yesterday a mosque here in Bremen got broken in, and they tore up a bunch of Qurans and stuffed the remains into the toilets [01:35]
Addax argh. Why?! [01:36]
sonOfRa Because racists [01:36]
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Addax Well, of course. But what do they really think they accomplish with this? [01:36]
selckin social credit with the friends [01:37]
Addax boy howdy that's got to be worth a lot [01:37]
selckin thats what life is all about [01:38]
Addax It really isn't [01:38]
selckin then what is [01:38]
sonOfRa selckin: it's not just in-group stuff. I sadly read some of the comments people made on social media, and not under pseudonyms. [01:38]
sonOfRa "It's just paper, why the hell are people making such a big deal of this?" [01:39]
selckin yeah they think it elivates them in their social group [01:39]
sonOfRa "BUT WHAT ABOUT NOTRE DAME?" (apparently there's a conspiracy theory that THE MUSLIMS set notre dame on fire) [01:39]
Addax I find the approval of in-groups relevant (I like the approval of my rabbi and synagogue, I guess?) but... if they decided to disapprove, I'd shrug and move on. if they said "put down some muslims or else!" I'd... point to the laws concerning lashon hara and move on. [01:39]
sonOfRa Ah but these people do not *care* about such things [01:40]
Addax then why act as if they do? [01:40]
sonOfRa They will, occasionally, claim to protect "the christian occident" [01:40]
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Addax "I better burn some qurans or else my in-group will suffer" <-- not actually logical [01:40]
sonOfRa They care only about sowing divisions [01:40]
Addax so what you're saying is that education and culture in germany sucks worse than here? [01:41]
sonOfRa No, I think the problems is a lot more complex than that. These are people who just need *someone to blame* [01:41]
sonOfRa And since "the jews" aren't all that big in germany anymore, they are now moving to a different scapegoat [01:42]
Faux Girls wearing SPICE IT UP t-shirts on the tube. So good. [01:42]
Addax sonOfRa: that's... a failure in education and culture [01:42]
sonOfRa Yes, but how do you suggest it's fixed? German history (and politics, and social studies) already have a *huge* focus on these topics [01:43]
freeone3000 Faux: Wow that's a cultural event I haven't heard in a while. Is it... is it retro? [01:43]
Addax sonOfRa: Education and culture explains such things as macro-events, lashing out at potential out-groups would diminish because education would identify the out-groups as being more or less "in-groups" [01:43]
sonOfRa Because of what happened here 70 years ago [01:43]
sonOfRa Cynical people are now saying it's happening *because* it's being taught so much in schools and people are sick of "generational guilt" [01:43]
Addax sonOfRa: I dunno, I'm not there so I have no real insight and would hesitate to suggest something based on observations from IRC and 3000+ miles away [01:43]
Addax See? That's education and culture! [01:44]
freeone3000 Dunno. Schools here have an emphasis on 'preserving French culture' which is. uh. [01:44]
Addax I don't see the point in making people feel guilty about it *today* - few were alive to participate, guilt for that isn't really possible [01:44]
Addax freeone3000: as if there was anything in french culture worth preserving [01:44]
freeone3000 There are conpsiracy theories saying that other provinces are sending english-speaking people to settle in quebec and deplace the francophones [01:44]
Addax is not a francophile [01:44]
Addax hahaha [01:45]
sonOfRa (there's no "guilt" in the lessons, people on the right are interpreting frequent teaching of WWII and the atrocities of the nazis as "guilt") [01:45]
Addax other provinces ++ [01:45]
Addax other provinces has a karma level of 1, Addax [01:45]
Addax sonOfRa: *nod* [01:45]
freeone3000 It doesn't even make *sense* as a conspiracy! If Ontario was doing it, they'd just *say so* [01:46]
Addax freeone3000: any culture that can respond with the Terror needs to be stepped on, hard [01:46]
sonOfRa I think one of the gravest mistakes was the actual illegality of the use of nazi symbols and the like, with high prison sentences. The forbidden things are always tempting [01:46]
sonOfRa But that is obviously speculation and we have no real way to find out [01:46]
sonOfRa Unless we start another world war, america beats us again, and helps write us *another* constitution [01:47]
freeone3000 'cause that's not a crime or literally anything. zero things prevent a quebecoi from going to, say, Ontario, and just living there forever, because it's *another province* and tehre's no barriers. you don't even have to change your phone number. [01:47]
freeone3000 but apparently English Canada is assaulting their culture by being english, right at them, all the time. [01:47]
Faux freeone3000: No, there's a live concert tonight and other times this week. [01:48]
Addax freeone3000: this is part of *why* I'm ... not a francophile at all [01:48]
Addax Germany theoretically did more to the Jews than France did, but France gets my special hatred, and that extends to French-speaking provinces too [01:48]
Addax mostly because France was in the perfect place to stop WW II early, but ... eh [01:49]
Addax why bother [01:49]
Addax so scary! don't want to be warmongers by attacking those nice warmongering Nazis as they step past every red line we draw [01:49]
Addax I get the fear - after all, WW I pretty much annihilated an entire generation of French men - but they ended up causing the very thing they feared [01:50]
sonOfRa Addax: I've been thinking about the rise of antisemitism and the like in recent years in Germany, and it's... Not an easy thing. Large portions of the population feel completely "left behind" by politics, across almost half the population, people are *worse* off than their parents for the first time since WWII [01:50]
Addax sonOfRa: yep. [01:51]
Addax But why is that the jews? [01:51]
ron what did the jews do this time [01:51]
fotato not politely die off i suppose. [01:51]
sonOfRa Addax: so there's two ways of interpreting that currently. 1) Germans are still as anti-semitic as ever, it only briefly stopped for 70 years [01:52]
Addax sonOfRa: I wouldn't agree with that statement [01:52]
sonOfRa 2) You could look at a correlation between high muslim immigration in the last decade and compare that to the rising amounts of antisemitic crime in germany and find... unsettling things [01:52]
Addax In the 1700s and 1800s German Jews integrated really... okay, maybe I would agree with that statement after all, the integration was surface-level and when things got rough (i.e., Nazi-like) the Jews were thrown to the wolves [01:53]
sonOfRa Sadly, police statistics don't offer a distinction here. For historical reasons, "anti-semitic crime" is generally listed as "far right wing crime" [01:53]
sonOfRa There is no distinction between anti-semitic nazis and anti-semitic muslims in crime statistics [01:53]
Addax *nod* Either way they're all assholes but... [01:53]
sonOfRa Of course merely publically *suggesting* that there might be something there is of course political suicide [01:54]
sonOfRa (unless you're part of a far right wing party with a platform of hating muslims) [01:54]
fotato https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vgPEiILu_V4 [01:54]
fotato fotato's title: "Jon Stewart Opening Statement on 9/11 Victim Compensation Fund (C-SPAN) - YouTube" [01:54]
sonOfRa And so the only party suggesting investigations into this is the proto-nazis of AfD, and of course other parties have to be against it simply because the idea came from them [01:55]
Addax sonOfRa: maybe someone should be crrrrrrazy and suggest that people not hate others because of where they were born or who they were born to or if they agreed or not with everything you say [01:55]
sonOfRa That is what we've been trying in schools since WWII, but apparently it hasn't worked. [01:55]
Faux https://twitter.com/uncoolfellazone/status/1138903987850305538 [01:59]
Faux Faux's title: "eustachy r daewo (@uncoolfellazone) | Twitter" [01:59]
sonOfRa Sorry, you are not authorized to see this status. [02:00]
sonOfRa looks like they protected their tweets and only people who already followed them can see it [02:00]
whaley god bless all intelligent jewish people [02:17]
freeone3000 https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2019/06/13/sex-drugs-self-harm-where-years-child-online-protection-law-went-wrong/ good old adtech, working to serve ads correctly [02:17]
freeone3000 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_Metafile aaaaaaaaaaaaaaa [02:33]
freeone3000 this is not an image format [02:33]
sonOfRa Zucchini stuffed with risotto is really delicious! [02:33]
sonOfRa Can recommend. [02:33]
Faux Double ew. [02:37]
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sonOfRa You're double ew [02:39]
sonOfRa I get not liking zucchini, but risotto? It's just so good. [02:40]
fotato cover it in cheese and throw it under the grill. [02:42]
fotato it's delicious. [02:42]
sonOfRa Yes that's exactly what I did with this [02:42]
fotato stuffed veg of any kind is delicious, yes. [02:42]
fotato high five. [02:42]
sonOfRa Extra parm on top of the zucchini, clearly the wedge in the risotto isn't enough [02:43]
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Faux What is the status of that tweet above? The *account* isn't protected, but the tweet seems to be? Can you do that? Has it been reported by too many people for being slander? [03:07]
Faux Maybe it's a retweet link for a protected account, as the original tweet is still up: https://twitter.com/uncoolfellazone/status/1138763036557238273 [03:08]
Faux Faux's title: "eustachy r daewo on Twitter: "beth rigby: boris, why do you say racist things [crowd boos] boris: people like it when i say racist things. also, i am a racist. [crowd cheers]"" [03:08]
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selckin what makes it protected, looks normal [03:13]
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whaley HE TELLS IT LIKE IT IS [04:05]
whaley (probably one of my least favorite statements of late, tbh) [04:07]
Faux selckin: The link above, to the same tweet, redirects to home or to the account if you aren't logged in. [04:13]
Faux Or just exits the android app. [04:19]
selckin ah indeed, even logged in [04:20]
sonOfRa Anyone here wanna play total war warhammer 2 with me? I got a steam coupon for 50% off, so it's only 30 currencies instead of 60! [04:34]
fotato THIRTY DONGS [04:35]
fotato whaley: WHAT IS DEAD MAY NEVER DIE [04:35]
sonOfRa (also you'd probably have to buy total war warhammer 1 as well because that's what unlocks the awesomer of the two campaign maps) [04:36]
whaley fotato: UNBOWED, UNBENT, UNBROKEN [04:36]
fotato i've never played a total war game. [04:36]
fotato UNBUTT [04:36]
sonOfRa They're pretty rad [04:36]
fotato ur pretty rad [04:37]
sonOfRa awww thanks bby [04:37]
[twisti] so i discovered shaving oil [04:39]
[twisti] holy shit thats neato [04:39]
fotato i use it when traveling [04:44]
fotato but really, anything that isnt foam in a fucking can is waaaaay better [04:44]
fotato https://www.truefittandhill.com/products/no-10-finest-shaving-cream this stuff is _fantastic_ [04:45]
fotato seems expensive but you go through it slow. around a tub a year. [04:45]
ron shaving cream lol [04:46]
fotato it lathers up so well [04:46]
ron I don't use shaving cream! [04:46]
fotato you should try it [04:49]
fotato i bought their sandalwood one, it smells lovely [04:50]
ron but... I don't shave. [04:51]
fotato you seem pretty clean shave- omg. [04:53]
ron yes fod [04:53]
fotato you _baby_ [04:54]
ron I trim once a week [04:55]
fotato you dont have a beard [04:55]
ron trim it a lot. [04:55]
sonOfRa https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNHwgEsJCKs god I need a switch [05:29]
sonOfRa sonOfRa's title: "Cadence of Hyrule: Crypt of the NecroDancer Ft. The Legend of Zelda - Nintendo Treehouse: Live - YouTube" [05:29]
sonOfRa This game looks so fucking awesome [05:29]
ron does it? [05:30]
sonOfRa YES [05:30]
ron meh [05:30]
sonOfRa I guess you have to like both crypt of the necrodancer AND legend of zelda [05:30]
ron and I've never played either really [05:30]
ron but your point makes sense [05:31]
ron get a switch then [05:31]
sonOfRa I have too many expenses coming up :( [05:31]
ron are you getting married? [05:31]
sonOfRa no [05:31]
ron then anything else can wait [05:32]
sonOfRa Need a dishwasher, the TV is dying, and I kinda want to upgrade my CPU (but that involves also buying a new board and RAM) [05:32]
ron you don't need a dishwasher [05:32]
ron if you get a switch you don't need a tv [05:32]
ron and if you get a switch you don't need a pc [05:32]
ron logic. [05:33]
whaley if you get me to break your back you won't need anything [05:33]
sonOfRa whaley: okay [05:33]
ron well, he'll need the switch when he lies in bed bored out of his mind [05:33]
sonOfRa do I have to pay travel expenses, or is that on the house with a back-breaking? [05:33]
whaley on the house [05:33]
sonOfRa great [05:34]
sonOfRa ugh, gotta get up early tomorrow [05:36]
sonOfRa good night [05:36]
fotato Night sonOfRa [05:39]
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db I'm appalled by the utter incompetence of so many people in our profession when it comes to the most basic one of our duties, which is fucking programming [09:29]
db why is it that people who obviously have not the slightest clue are allowed to write production code? Just imagine we would do that in construction [09:29]
db I guess it is because it is so fucking complicated and everyone is somehow fine with "but it works, doesn't it?" [09:30]
db basks in anger [09:32]
db also, proper programming is a skill that isn't valued by companies. if you want a rise, it doesn't matter if you're a good programmer. what matters are your social skills, stuff like that. [09:39]
db our whole industry is fucked. [09:39]
fotato passes db a beer [09:54]
db leans on fotato's shoulder and cries [11:01]
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