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KekSi 'morning [01:43]
dodobrain__ morning KekSi [02:07]
puppy_za [puppy_za!uid277586@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-spzpkjfjueipvwua] has joined #java-talk [02:30]
KekSi sup [03:11]
puppy_za hi [03:16]
puppy_za work [03:16]
puppy_za or appear to work [03:16]
KekSi same [03:17]
puppy_za some of us probably get an Oscar for it [03:22]
KekSi ..or a high income :E [03:33]
puppy_za if only [03:42]
puppy_za I should find a job that actually hires me for java work [03:43]
Faux s/java/rust/ [03:56]
puppy_za I don't know much about Rust :p [03:57]
puppy_za ll [03:59]
puppy_za oops [03:59]
acuzio morning ladies [04:05]
acuzio reboot time [04:05]
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acuzio morning [04:10]
acuzio acuzio, what does that even *mean*? [04:10]
acuzio Faux: are we free yet? [04:13]
Faux no [04:17]
Faux I mean, we were freer before this started. [04:17]
Faux So I don't really know what you are asking. [04:17]
scav MORNIG [04:19]
puppy_za morning scav [04:19]
acuzio Faux: Have you not read the papers , we are going to be FREE [04:21]
Faux The paper the person next to me is reading is focussing on how happy some celebrity is in some photo so they can't possibly be divorcing. [04:22]
Faux So no. [04:22]
acuzio what nonsense paper are you reading [04:24]
KekSi any of em [04:42]
puppy_za The Sun, probably [04:43]
puppy_za or Daily Mail [04:43]
Faux She stopped reading to take tube selfies. [04:58]
Faux Freedom behaviour right there. [04:58]
acuzio Tube Selfies ... !!1 [04:58]
acuzio Are you in London or not ? [04:59]
acuzio The maximum allowed emotion/interaction allowed is the deep sigh and shake of the head - thats it. What the fuck is this tube selfie all about ? [04:59]
puppy_za tinder profile [05:00]
acuzio she must be a filthy tourist [05:00]
puppy_za don't judge tourists! [05:01]
acuzio we do that as a right [05:02]
acuzio Faux: Tommy Robinson has requested for asylum directly [05:06]
acuzio from Mr Trump [05:09]
acuzio I am geeing him up [05:10]
Faux I am.. I think that is what asylum is for? [05:11]
acuzio yeah he's a white male being persecuted by the UK govt. [05:12]
acuzio So yeah exactly for that [05:12]
Faux Country you're in wants to execute gays? Seek asylum somewhere The Gay is ENCOURAGED. Country wants to execute you for being a nazi? [05:13]
acuzio He is a persecuted white male - clearly not nazi [05:13]
Faux White males occasionally get infected with The Gay too. [05:14]
acuzio Is he of The Gay ? [05:14]
Faux Nazis typically suppress it 'cos it's not cool in their community. [05:24]
acuzio oh no [05:30]
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acuzio wtf is this ? https://darklang.com/ [05:51]
Faux 4GL/CASE but ON THE BLOCKCHAIN. [05:52]
acuzio heh heh [06:22]
acuzio https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/albertonardelli/salvini-russia-oil-deal-secret-recording [06:22]
acuzio acuzio's title: "A Secret Recording Reveals How Russia Tried To Funnel Millions To Matteo Salvini's Lega Party" [06:22]
puppy_za so... what does this Dark lang look like? [06:29]
puppy_za also, honestly, BuzzFeed does hard-core journalism [06:30]
acuzio well yeah but no one cares [06:30]
acuzio and thats my point [06:30]
KekSi yeah, i keep throwing them into the clickbait-bullshit-"journalism" part in my head but they somehow do do real journalism [06:31]
acuzio No they do serious journalism [06:31]
acuzio however absolutel;y no one cares [06:31]
puppy_za well I do, sometimes [06:32]
KekSi yea.. it's sad but in the last 10 or so years noone gave a shit when there's not 24/7 coverage everywhere about it [06:32]
KekSi this would've been enough to throw him out and whatnot in the 80s (ok, in truth: possibly not in italy) [06:33]
KekSi it's effectively the same thing as with austria a couple of months back [06:33]
KekSi but see what came of the panama papers.. [06:33]
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puppy_za well, more reform on money laundry and squeeze on tax haven [06:36]
puppy_za no one was prosecuted. but the journalist was shot, if I recall [06:36]
KekSi and the (lack of enduring) news coverage for it is pretty much the same as with the guy who showed how the CIA was pretty much the biggest cocaine importer into the US in the 70s/80s [06:36]
KekSi both got killed/discredited & killed [06:37]
fotato >Russia Tried To Funnel Millions To Matteo Salvini's Legs [06:37]
KekSi puppy_za: killed with a car bombed [06:37]
KekSi that reporter on the US cocaine thing killed himself by shooting himself in the head.. TWICE.. [06:37]
puppy_za just to ensure the suicide will succeed :p [06:39]
KekSi yeah because the smear campaign and ruining his life wasn't enough [06:39]
puppy_za it's always about "teaching them a lesson" [06:42]
puppy_za maybe reporters should just work with vigilantes [06:43]
scav just one day left, and I am looking at 4-5 weeks of vacation [07:49]
dreamreal woo, grats [07:52]
puppy_za where are you going to? [07:54]
scav nowhere special, we are painting our house, and then i'll be fixing the roof on our tiny house up in the mountains because norwegian [08:30]
dreamreal nice! [08:30]
scav at least it's something else than sitting behind a computer all day [08:30]
dreamreal yeah, and sometimes it's nice to get stuff done around the house. My wife and I, for our birthday presents, have been doing that - calling in repair people for various things, etc [08:31]
scav probably smart, you spend some money but you get more time to do other things [08:32]
scav in norway it is still a very common thing to do everything yourself, unless you need a license (plumping, electrical stuff etc). [08:32]
dreamreal well, in these cases they were things I didn't know how to do. I did the stuff I *did* know how to do. [08:33]
dreamreal Some plumbing projects, stuff like that... but this was stuff like calibrating an oven, going to fix a natural gas regulator as well, stuff like that [08:33]
dreamreal the fact that I didn't know how to do these projects is exactly why they were still around [08:34]
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scav fair enough [08:57]
scav luckily a close friend of mine is an electrician, so most of the things i cannot do in my house he can help me with [08:58]
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freeone3000 acuzio: "Every user has a development server. Some users also have a production server." at scale. [09:33]
freeone3000 they're also incredibly light on actual technical details, so it's impossible to tell whether it can solve a problem I have. It's done up like a SV pitch site. [09:35]
KekSi how does everyone do API versioning..? [09:35]
KekSi i standardized /api/v1/{object} and now some want a v2 of their service but not of the entire API [09:36]
freeone3000 Too bad, they've got a v2 of the entire api. [09:36]
KekSi suggestions were Accept: application/vnd.{company}v2+json [09:36]
freeone3000 'cause that's what an API means. [09:36]
KekSi some suggested handling it behind the doors because it's only non-public pieces that would be v2 [09:37]
KekSi but i find that stupid to have external and internal paths [09:37]
KekSi we're at about 60 services or so and if some make up their own naming schema but are externally - through an API gateway/atm it's nginx - reachable on the regular path [09:38]
freeone3000 Yeah. We independently version every service, because doing otherwise is insanity, and only the public-facing ones get actual nice names and compatibility. [09:41]
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Necro^Byte parted the channel: "No boundaries on the net!" [09:55]
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acuzio "i standardized /api/v1/{object} and now some want a v2 of their service but not of the entire API" - i do this as well [09:58]
KekSi mind: it's like objects in the sense of what's fitting for our stuff -- explicitly *not* service name [10:01]
KekSi like /api/v1/events/ which - in this case - is shared by multiple services under it depending on the types of events [10:02]
KekSi naming should be plural there and everything should implement some kind of filter=, before= and/or after=, per_page=, page= etc etc [10:03]
KekSi but now i'm unsure how to actually do versioning of individual services' APIs beyond that.. the application/vendor.companyname.v1+json for example has popped up for me several times [10:04]
KekSi or custom headers [10:04]
KekSi but as part of the path..? [10:04]
KekSi hidden behind nginx..? [10:04]
KekSi i think that's going to escalate quickly and make things hard to debug (especially as proposed by some colleague) [10:05]
KekSi because you end up with ip:port/v42/something without a name for the service and can try rdns'ing your way through docker and shit to find out which service that actually is [10:05]
acuzio what are you talking about ? [10:06]
acuzio its all fucking simpler than that [10:06]
fotato Don?t version in your url. Use header versioning. [10:16]
acuzio yeah thats another way of doing it - [10:16]
fotato KekSi: the vnd stuff is for the version of the response schema, not the api. [10:16]
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scav fotato: it doesn't really matter as long as people understand the versioning scheme... [10:22]
scav also is aws to busy counting their damn money to fix their fucking console? most of what you would expect (like actual search / pagination) simply is not working. anywhere [10:26]
fotato TOO [10:31]
apetresc [apetresc!~apetresc@toroon474qw-lp140-04-174-95-215-44.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #java-talk [10:32]
ron TWO [10:38]
scav you are not the boss of me, fotato [10:38]
freeone3000 well, here where I work, it's password-change day. Maybe it's also password-change day at amazon. [10:40]
fotato scav: yeah typically i charge for that service. [10:46]
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scav fotato: too bad then [11:03]
freeone3000 I wonder if there's a way to make caps lock also capitalize punctuation [11:17]
Faux Shift lock! [11:18]
fotato yeah, that's a thing [11:21]
freeone3000 huh, yep, that actually is exactly what I want, thanks! [11:21]
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acuzio https://foaas.com/ [11:33]
acuzio acuzio's title: "Fuck Off As A Service (FOAAS)" [11:33]
ron and as usual, acuzio discovers things after they have been around for ages. [11:34]
fotato next week, acuzio discovers twitch [11:37]
dreamreal wait until he finds myspace or geocities! [11:37]
fotato <acuzio> guys did you know you can MAKE YOUR OWN WEB PAGES [11:38]
acuzio fotato: actually i dont know what twitch is [11:39]
fotato <3 [11:39]
acuzio Faux: Looks like the English are finally getting good at a game they invented - Cricket [11:39]
fotato soon they wont suck at footsoccerball [11:39]
acuzio true true [11:40]
fotato live pandacam: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Dbx3YojhK0&feature=youtu.be [11:40]
fotato fotato's title: "Happiness Village Pandas powered by EXPLORE.org - YouTube" [11:40]
fotato currently four pandas are getting hopelessly stuck up a tree. [11:41]
fotato this is the best thing on the internet. [11:41]
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ron https://twitter.com/rorypreddy/status/1142967056150728708 [12:14]
ron ron's title: "Rory Preddy on Twitter: "Using the wrong tool for the job. #programming pic.twitter.com/5RdVqGuZoj"" [12:14]
scav Looks like the PERFECT tool for the job if you ask me [12:20]
freeone3000 I mean, it's rowing. [12:30]
ron yyes [12:31]
fotato *punting [12:33]
fotato scav: stupid but works amirite [12:34]
scav stupid? that is fucking AWESOME! [12:34]
freeone3000 it's not even stupid [12:34]
scav fuck you and your total lack of vision ! [12:34]
scav freeone3000: o/ [12:34]
fotato But yeah it?s not rowing it?s punting. [12:35]
fotato The bucket is clearly clawing along the riverbed [12:35]
freeone3000 oh. even better. [12:35]
freeone3000 I mean obviously they might want to put a motor on the back of the boat but I don't think it's actually going that slowly compared to that. [12:36]
fotato https://giant.gfycat.com/WeeklyAchingArgentineruddyduck.mp4 [12:37]
acuzio i am so tired [12:40]
acuzio i am also old [12:40]
selckin can see something tiny moving behind the glass of my monitor, trash the whole thing yeah? [12:40]
acuzio yeah yeah [12:41]
scav no, it will die eventually [12:44]
acuzio anyone putting money on Trump [12:44]
acuzio to win 2022 [12:45]
ron is he running? [12:45]
ustedes for Senate [12:45]
acuzio senate ? [12:46]
acuzio no no [12:46]
acuzio he is God Emperor [12:46]
acuzio have you not learnt anything ?> [12:46]
ron No, Dr. Doom is God Emperor. [12:47]
dreamreal acuzio: how would... trump... win in 2022? [12:52]
dreamreal I mean, that makes no sense [12:52]
dreamreal He's up for reelection in 2020. Plus, term limits are in place for a president. [12:53]
dreamreal And there is ABSOLUTELY no way those will be changed. [12:55]
ron famous. last. words. [12:56]
ustedes dreamreal: we've been winning so big this entire time, not just in 2016 and 2020. We will be winning so big in 2022 you will be tired of winning [12:58]
dreamreal sighs [12:58]
ustedes I feel bad for normally rationale people who voted for him [12:58]
dreamreal The ones I know who voted for him are still searching for a rational alternative [12:59]
dreamreal they're being given wackadoodle lefties vs ... trump [12:59]
ustedes (rationale or rational, btw? I hate english) [12:59]
dreamreal "Vote for us! Errythang FOR FREEEEE AND WE WILL TAKE THE GUNS SOMEHOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" [12:59]
dreamreal "rational" [12:59]
ustedes (rational... rationale is a noun) [12:59]
dreamreal "rationale" is a noun. Rational is an adje... yeah [12:59]
ustedes (I engrish good) [12:59]
ustedes not that I would call the opponent in 2016 a wackdoodle leftie, but I'm not going to go there again for the 80th time [01:00]
dreamreal Clinton was just despised virulently by a ton of the voting public [01:02]
dreamreal and then made sure that she put down voters who weren't happy with trump [01:02]
dreamreal plus the ads promising activist judges made the GOP look attractive as well [01:09]
dreamreal other things factored in, too: the media saturation and lack of trust IN the media made people wonder if trump wasn't as bad as, well, trump [01:10]
freeone3000 dreamreal: Really? Lots of the candidates seemed pretty centrist. [01:11]
freeone3000 There's Joe Biden, who shouldn't get elected because oh my god the photos of him on like 6pm news he talks so closely to women who clearly do not want to be there [01:12]
dreamreal Biden's the DNC's best chance IMO [01:12]
dreamreal freeone3000: when? [01:12]
dreamreal (the "seemed pretty centrist") [01:12]
freeone3000 Oh, right, because I was about to pop off with like a full album [01:13]
freeone3000 ( https://tinyurl.com/y5zq9o6y still great ) [01:13]
dreamreal well, I was trying to figure out what you were referring to - a lot of the GOP candidates in 2016 were okay [01:14]
ustedes almost positive Cruz would have been worse than Trump [01:14]
freeone3000 dreamreal: There's Cory Booker, whose most left position is that the government should fund healthcare for more people. [01:14]
dreamreal surprisingly, trump was not in that set... but he was the one who got the lion's share of the media coverage [01:14]
dreamreal freeone3000: okay, so you're talking THIS election [01:15]
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dreamreal ustedes: I wanted Rubio from the GOP :( [01:15]
freeone3000 Yeah. Cory Booker, Pete Butt, Andrew Yang, completely normal policy positions. [01:15]
ustedes dreamreal: I was personally rooting for Kasich [01:15]
dreamreal Yang's going to struggle getting UBI to make sense to the american public [01:15]
dreamreal ustedes: I was *rooting* for Johnson [01:15]
ustedes Rubio would have been... well, I wouldn't have been mad [01:16]
dreamreal Buttigieg would be okay [01:16]
freeone3000 It needs a metaphor. [01:16]
freeone3000 "Social Security for the Insecure" [01:16]
dreamreal Booker... I'm opposed because of his stance on Israel [01:16]
freeone3000 "Social Safety". [01:16]
freeone3000 Something like that. [01:16]
dreamreal Buttigieg (sp?) has the advantage of not being in DC *now* [01:17]
freeone3000 pete butt. he will forever be pete butt. [01:17]
dreamreal Yeah, his name will sadly work against him forever [01:17]
dreamreal there're a lot of the current Dem candidates I'd be okay with, but I don't know if the DNC will know how to use them. I fear the primary process will winnow out the sanest of them, with maybe Biden left standing [01:19]
freeone3000 ugh. why biden. [01:19]
dreamreal he's tied to obama, he's nonthreatening, generally not very effective [01:19]
dreamreal hell, I'd vote for him [01:19]
freeone3000 mr. "boundaries of protecting personal space are being reset" [01:20]
dreamreal Don't know if I *will*, mind, we're still a long way off and there are other candidates who I imagine I'll find more attractive in the actual election [01:20]
ustedes uhm [01:21]
dreamreal freeone3000: *shrug* we have Trump in office right now [01:21]
ustedes that's a horrific reason to vote on someone whose job is to execute policy [01:21]
dreamreal want to explain how biden's personal boundaries are worse than Trump's? [01:21]
freeone3000 They're not, but I'd prefer we didn't have someone with personal boundary problems AT ALL! [01:21]
dreamreal ustedes: I want the POTUS to be POTUS again [01:21]
dreamreal we need a buffoon and not a rapist [01:21]
dreamreal freeone3000: okay, sure. but that person ALSO has to be able to win a general election. [01:22]
ustedes Whaley 2020 [01:22]
freeone3000 Could we have a well-spoken, thoughtful-seeming, able-to-make-a-speech, coherent-public-policy person? [01:22]
ustedes nevermind [01:22]
ustedes freeone3000 just disqualified me [01:22]
dreamreal Biden's right: moderates win in the general election. And CNN is right: progressives win the primaries. It's a recipe for disaster for the DNC again. [01:22]
dreamreal freeone3000: who would that be, in your opinion? [01:23]
freeone3000 Well, we've got Warren. [01:23]
dreamreal does a spit-take [01:23]
freeone3000 She's... slightly... left of center, granted... maybe. [01:23]
ustedes Warren (and Sanders) have the same idiotic foriegn policy and trade stances as Trump [01:23]
ustedes I actually like Warren, but that to me is a deal breaker unless her only real competition is actually Sanders [01:24]
dreamreal I'm tired of populists as POTUS [01:24]
ustedes I think she's be great in the Cabinet and I love her as a Senator. [01:24]
freeone3000 then maybe we shouldn't have a popularity contest? [01:24]
dreamreal freeone3000: we don't have one! Electoral college, remember? [01:24]
dreamreal And populist != popularity anyway [01:24]
freeone3000 dreamreal: oh, right, so the person that most people didn't vote for wins anyway. [01:24]
dreamreal sighs. this again. [01:25]
ustedes is there an actual functioning first world country whose head of state is chosen by winner of popular vote? serious question? [01:26]
ustedes *serious question. [01:26]
ustedes France, I suppose [01:26]
dreamreal the math for that is well-known. Hillary *slaughtered* trump in places where she wasn't really going to contend for electoral votes. That gave her the popular vote. The EC - which I'm pretty sure did NOT catch her by surprise by existing - does not work that way. [01:26]
freeone3000 It should. [01:26]
dreamreal It should not. [01:26]
freeone3000 The people with the money, the power, AND the numbers should decide how the country is run. [01:27]
dreamreal If it did, then candidates would market themselves like maaaaaad to a few states: CA, TX, OH, NY, pennsylvania, a few others, maybe. [01:27]
ustedes so freeone3000 agrees that Trump should be president [01:27]
ustedes he has the best numbers, the biggeest numbers [01:27]
freeone3000 Lots of groups stayed out, or were "above politics", or were "both sides" last election are committed this time. [01:27]
ustedes backs away [01:27]
dreamreal freeone3000: that's absolutely the way the framers designed *against* [01:27]
dreamreal the EC doesn't work the way it was MEANT to, but the presidency is decided *by the states* and not by the people [01:28]
freeone3000 It doesn't work the way it's meant to because we hit the cap on congress more than a hundred years ago! [01:28]
freeone3000 It's no longer even approaching proportional. Minessota has one elector per 2,000 people, california has one per 50,000! [01:29]
freeone3000 If we assigned electors according to the uncapped formula, we'd see a lot fewer "lost popular but won electoral" votes. [01:29]
dreamreal there've been... what, three of those so far? [01:30]
freeone3000 another way it doesn't work the way it's meant to is that electors are bound by tradition, and frequently by law, to actually vote for the person the state voted for, instead of the actual candidate they prefer. [01:30]
dreamreal yes, and that was my point [01:30]
dreamreal I hate that tradition (and law) where it exists [01:30]
freeone3000 Five. 2000 and 2016, notably. [01:30]
freeone3000 We didn't get our first until 1824 [01:31]
freeone3000 ...so an entire what 40 years then [01:31]
dreamreal Jackson? or Tyler? I can't remember which they were [01:31]
freeone3000 Adams, Hayes, Harrison, Bush Jr, Trump. [01:31]
dreamreal Well, the framers weren't of the opinion that popularity was the right gauge [01:31]
freeone3000 Possibly Nixon, as well. [01:31]
dreamreal Ah, thank you [01:31]
freeone3000 (there was a dispute on the actual vote count for Nixon) [01:32]
dreamreal I don't think Nixon. I thought Nixon as well, but surial pointed out that nixon got 60% of the popular vote [01:32]
dreamreal Even a vote dispute wouldn't make up a 20% swing [01:32]
freeone3000 The entire state of alabama voted in an incorrect manner. [01:33]
dreamreal Still wouldn't make up for a 20% differential [01:33]
freeone3000 Georgetown University Press by Scier says it might have. https://books.google.com/books?id=F9eKdGnMvRYC&pg=PA100#v=onepage&q&f=false [01:34]
freeone3000 freeone3000's title: "You Call This an Election?: America's Peculiar Democracy - Steven E. Schier - Google Books" [01:34]
dreamreal heh [01:34]
dreamreal I think I'd still rather have Nixon than Trump :) [01:35]
dreamreal I mean, Ghost Nixon, maybe not, since he's dead and everything [01:37]
freeone3000 Nixon's Head in a Jar, maybe. [01:37]
dreamreal heh [01:37]
dreamreal The GOP was on the slope of wackadoodle-hood but they didn't really jump until Clinton [01:38]
dreamreal Bush I they loaded the springboard, with whatshisface running Bush's campaign [01:39]
dreamreal then when Clinton won they lost their freaking minds [01:39]
freeone3000 ...why? [01:39]
dreamreal Why which? [01:39]
freeone3000 Why was Bill Clinton such a divisive candidate? [01:39]
freeone3000 He was *so boring* [01:40]
dreamreal natural extension of... ATWATER's approach, finally remembered his name [01:40]
dreamreal Atwater campaigned with a scorched-earth, win-at-all-costs mentality [01:40]
freeone3000 I think if Bill Clinton were to win today, he'd have to run as a Republican. [01:40]
dreamreal "they're not our respected opponents across the aisle, they're traitors and cads and horrible people and we will never accept them" [01:41]
dreamreal he was a lot more centrist than most of the dem or GOP candidates, yeah [01:41]
dreamreal but when Clinton won with the assist from Perot, the GOP saw blood in the water and went for it regardless of consequence, under the guise of morality [01:42]
dreamreal and that's all it was: the GOP people weren't, like, better people, they just weren't president [01:42]
dreamreal and when they won - or, if you like, "won" - by playing the game the way they did, contract with America and all that, they calcified, and the democrats calcified as well [01:43]
dreamreal no vision, no foresight, just raw grabs for power where any short term gain was worth the cost [01:44]
dreamreal it's always been a high stakes game but... maybe it's recency but it seems worse now than it was [01:44]
dreamreal The state of education makes it worse :( [01:45]
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fotato forget job interviews. just hire anyone who can spell 'bureaucracy' right on the first try. [02:34]
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Faux That's good. I'm out. [02:48]
tang^ have fun storming the castle [02:58]
freeone3000 so what, all the call to power 2 players? [03:02]
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freeone3000 Okay so I get heavy metal album covers are a thing. But. Please appreciate https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/2/2f/Preachers_of_the_Night.jpg [03:27]
Faux Wrote this code using non-trivial callbacks the other day, and got to using it for the first time and the types just don't even close to work out. Looking at it again. So confused. [03:53]
fotato that cover is.... not good. [04:11]
freeone3000 oh man they're all like that. https://cdnb.artstation.com/p/assets/images/images/010/532/065/large/zsofia-dankova-1.jpg?1539776234 and https://rateyourmusic.com/release/ep/powerwolf-orden-ogan-xandria-civil-war/wolfsnachte-2015-tour-ep/buy/ and they're just all amazingly THAT [04:13]
Faux WOLFS NACTHE [04:13]
fotato i can read the band name. not a metal band. [04:14]
Faux Right. I've found where CPS fails and it's time to return callbacks. Duh. [04:16]
fotato Child Protection Services? [04:18]
Faux Continuation Assing Style. [04:19]
freeone3000 Content Source Protection [04:19]
Faux Content Protection Shield. [04:20]
Faux The worst thing for me about writing non-rust/java is that I write something dumb like `foo((s) => { return {b: foo(s.b),}; });` and nothing is going to remove the redundant return for me. Or remember the rules for whether the return is even redundant. [04:25]
freeone3000 somehow, from "Sanctified with Dynamite", I landed on an Edguy cover of Rock Me Amadeus. [04:43]
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fotato https://open.spotify.com/album/6RGmWoOnLTzSdnKbFjAV8v?si=nKHl6gEZTi2D-JIzRaIHcQ you'd like this album [04:51]
fotato fotato's title: "A Tribute to Abba by Various Artists on Spotify" [04:51]
fotato mostly no longer available on spotify, it seems /o\ [04:51]
fotato https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7sE-D8uKPNM [04:52]
fotato fotato's title: "The Best Metal ABBA Tribute (2001) - YouTube" [04:52]
fotato the SOS one is amazing. [04:53]
fotato (as is money money money) [04:57]
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fotato For the first time in the history of slack someone used @channel in an entirely justifiable way. [10:24]
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