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« 2019-09-11

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KekSi 'morning [01:29]
puppy_za [puppy_za!uid277586@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-wuyxhozzeqndbuvj] has joined #java-talk [02:10]
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puppy_za morning [02:18]
sonOfRa good morning [02:40]
puppy_za hi sonOfRa [02:40]
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Faux https://sites.google.com/a/chromium.org/dev/chromium-os/u2f-ecdsa-vulnerability "We discovered a vulnerability in the H1 security chip firmware concerning ECDSA signature generation" REALLY. THAT NEVER HAPPENS. [03:10]
Faux Faux's title: "U2F ECDSA vulnerability - The Chromium Projects" [03:10]
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sonOfRa https://photos.app.goo.gl/r9ywmBJQdtL3cYJh7 you want to work, hooman? How about... no. [04:58]
sonOfRa sonOfRa's title: "Shared album - Simon Levermann - Google Photos" [04:58]
Faux Mine does that all the time, and it's annoying. But not as annoying as her new strategy: press the power button on the top of the desktop: https://quad.pe/e/MXfcEdBtaa.jpg [04:58]
sonOfRa awwww [04:59]
sonOfRa She usually doesn't pick my desk, first time she did that [04:59]
db cat pictures? really? [05:14]
sonOfRa yes [05:14]
Faux Continually all day every day. [05:14]
sonOfRa ^ [05:14]
db ok. I just adopted two last week. https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/70KKUhaQ/IMG_20190909_092001252.jpg [05:15]
puppy_za ... [05:15]
puppy_za here you are, sharing cat photo [05:15]
puppy_za I don't own any cat [05:15]
Faux db: AWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWw [05:16]
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fotato Awwww [05:50]
fotato sonOfRa: heheh. Your cat has a slight Hitler vibe going. [06:01]
sonOfRa she really does. [06:02]
sonOfRa the gf does not appreciate people pointing this out about her cat :D [06:02]
fotato D [06:02]
fotato DONT YOU MEAN FIANCÉE [06:02]
sonOfRa yes [06:02]
sonOfRa But gf is so much shorter to type [06:02]
fotato lol ya [06:02]
fotato Maybe don?t keep that reasoning once married. [06:03]
sonOfRa wife isn't quite as many keystrokes as fiancée, especially if you add the accent [06:03]
sonOfRa hahaha the "we broke sha256" guys retracted their claim [06:08]
Faux REALLY [06:09]
Faux fotato: Frenchies don't put accents on capitals. Best hack ever. Just shout everything and you won't be wrong. [06:09]
fotato Huh. I didn?t type it. iOS just had my back. [06:09]
Faux FiancEe. [06:09]
Faux Arguably it's an english word which contains the accent, and we don't have that rule, or something. [06:09]
fotato I love iOS?s correction of my terrible Greek [06:10]
sonOfRa "Further laboratory controlled trials led its researchers to identify an equipment flaw which was discovered to be rendering incorrect, ambiguous results." [06:10]
sonOfRa hahaha [06:10]
fotato It?s scarily good at choosing the correct Ss and is [06:10]
sonOfRa controlled trials for breaking a hash algorithm <3 [06:10]
sonOfRa I love it [06:10]
Faux It's not exactly ambiguous as to whether you have a collision. [06:11]
Faux Not one single piece of sympathy. [06:11]
fotato I just type roughly correct gibberish and boom sensible written Greek. [06:11]
sonOfRa They were claiming preimage, not collision, actually [06:11]
Faux If you have preimage, you just run H(x) for random x, until F(H(x)) != x, and you have a collision? [06:12]
Faux Presumably true for every x > H's output size. [06:12]
db do you have a link to the claim? I didn't catch that [06:13]
sonOfRa https://crypto.stackexchange.com/questions/74251/has-sha256-been-broken-by-treadwell-stanton-dupont/74254#74254 [06:14]
sonOfRa Link is somewhere in there, don't have a direct link at hand right now [06:14]
db thanks [06:15]
[twisti] sonOfRa: common wisdom says that the answer to any such question in the headline assures that the answer is "no" [06:16]
sonOfRa well yes [06:16]
sonOfRa I wonder if their claim meaningfully affected the bitcoin market [06:17]
sonOfRa Because that's clearly what they were going for [06:17]
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[twisti] Remember: this is not brute force. [06:20]
[twisti] False. This is a brute force assault on hapless victims by a barrage of technobabble. [06:20]
Faux I hope someone sues them. [06:20]
[twisti] haha [06:20]
db ok so it was just a scam [06:20]
Faux It was guaranteed to be a scam. Nobody has done preimage on a hash function since 1982 iirc. [06:20]
Faux Before crypto was invented. [06:20]
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sonOfRa hm. Amazon says new SSD is going to arrive by 8pm today [06:27]
sonOfRa But it hasn't even started shipping yet [06:27]
db they do same day delivery, don't they [06:28]
Faux 2h delivery here. [06:28]
Faux CITY POWERS [06:28]
sonOfRa Yeah they supposedly do same day but I haven't tried it out before this order [06:29]
sonOfRa speak of the devil. Update at 12:31, it's left a DHL facility in Rheinberg, Germany [06:45]
sonOfRa Which is... 300km away [06:45]
sonOfRa I have my doubts of it actually being here by 8pm today. [06:45]
Faux Travelling by vacuum tube. [06:45]
sonOfRa https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/sep/11/operation-yellowhammer-fears-no-deal-brexit-chaos-forced-to-publish-secret-papers [06:48]
sonOfRa "A no-deal Brexit could result in rising food and fuel prices, disruption to medicine supplies and public disorder on Britain?s streets, according to secret documents the government was forced by MPs to publish on Wednesday." [06:48]
sonOfRa What?! Realy? [06:48]
puppy_za shock and horror [06:54]
Faux oh no [06:54]
sonOfRa surial: you're dutch, so maybe you've been: Is Burgers' Zoo in arnhem worth a visit? Gf and I wanna go to a bigger kind of zoo and it looks like it's a good place to go [06:54]
Faux Zoo Burgers? Controversial. [06:55]
puppy_za "So how did you guys handle the dead lions? Is there a burial?" [06:55]
sonOfRa No burial. Just a surial. [06:56]
puppy_za Zoo keepers: (looking at the zoo burger) [06:56]
whaley dutch [06:56]
whaley There are two things I can't stand in this world. People who are intolerant of other people's cultures... and the Dutch. [06:56]
fotato That really should be the French [07:01]
Faux Amen. [07:01]
sonOfRa french [07:01]
sonOfRa sonOfRa, what does that even *mean*? [07:01]
sonOfRa aw [07:01]
fotato This chat just reminded me to listen to more Burial. [07:02]
sonOfRa info dutch [07:02]
sonOfRa dutch* was added by: cheeser on 22 Sep 2007 at 03:39 and has a literal value of: <see>intolerance [07:02]
sonOfRa of course the cheese man hates the dutch [07:02]
puppy_za isn't there a French programmer here? [07:02]
fotato There are no French programmers. Only total cunts. [07:02]
db I know a french guy who claims to be a programmer [07:04]
surial sonOfRa: only zoo I've been to is blijdorp (rotterdam) which is nice. [07:06]
whaley incroyable! [07:09]
whaley well now I've got some advice for you little buddy [07:12]
sonOfRa surial: I see, thanks! Taking a look at it. Currently considering arnhem, as well as Gelsenkirchen. [07:28]
sonOfRa whaley: talking about the dutch.... https://twitter.com/KTNV/status/1171944243012628480 [07:32]
sonOfRa sonOfRa's title: "KTNV Action News on Twitter: "#BREAKING: two men from the Netherlands arrested for trespassing at Nevada National Security Site close to #Area51 government site. (Updated from previous tweet) pic.twitter.com/Bq6GrBwjHG"" [07:32]
Faux When is area51 day? [07:33]
Faux 20th Sep. [07:33]
sonOfRa 20th. [07:33]
KekSi oh shit [07:33]
KekSi i'm even going to be close to there then [07:33]
fotato But that?s the same day the links awakening remake is released. [07:33]
KekSi never would've imagined that, lol [07:33]
Faux https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/188/925/881.gif just saying. [07:34]
sonOfRa KekSi: well you have a mission now [07:34]
sonOfRa In the name of the channelk [07:34]
sonOfRa Do it. [07:34]
whaley smoke and pancake [07:34]
KekSi no [07:34]
sonOfRa DO IT [07:34]
sonOfRa you know you want to [07:34]
KekSi no, i have no interest in being arrested or dying [07:34]
sonOfRa They can't arrest/kill all of you! [07:35]
fotato P sure they can [07:35]
sonOfRa (they definitely can) [07:35]
puppy_za probably can [07:35]
KekSi and they will [07:35]
Bombe They might torture you first! [07:36]
KekSi i mean i've been there before in 98 and the signs were quite open about this - you *will* be shot [07:36]
puppy_za who has time for that? :p [07:36]
sonOfRa Bombe: no I think keksi's skin color isn't on the torture spectrum [07:37]
KekSi yeah, check peter griffin's chart -- i should be safe [07:38]
Bombe Fuck you and your privilege! [07:40]
KekSi was BORN THIS WAY [07:41]
fotato Yeah its pretty great walking past police officers and not being arbitrarily beaten to death. [07:41]
KekSi you'd think that this should be default but there's certain countries where it isn't [07:42]
db https://youtu.be/wkJOcpapKGI [07:54]
db db's title: "Louis CK "White Male Privilege" - 3% Conference - YouTube" [07:54]
db (i post this a lot, sorry to repeat myself) [07:54]
Faux Had an enlightened discussion about positive discrimination with the electronics people this morning. [07:55]
Faux I hope they all die. [07:55]
whaley did CK jerk off in front of a unwilling female after that skit? [07:56]
db Idk but if he did who cares. It's not like he's a Mexican or something. [07:57]
db (or is he) [07:58]
KekSi apparently he has done that a lot of times but the *unwilling* bit was the one that tripped off the #metoo people [07:58]
KekSi he is in fact a mexican or at least grew up there [07:58]
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freeone3000 Faux: The attack on PDF signatures was preimage, which was 2013, but they messed up a lot of other stuff too. [09:03]
Faux Uh. [09:04]
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ron morning [09:08]
sonOfRa freeone3000: pretty sure the pdf attack is a collision and explicitly *not* a pre-image [09:19]
sonOfRa They generated *both* pdfs simultaneously to force a collision [09:19]
sonOfRa oh wait talking about something else [09:19]
sonOfRa nevermind [09:19]
Faux I don't know what attack he is referring to, but the word "signature" strongly suggests "not hash function" to me. [09:22]
freeone3000 It's LIKE a hash function in that it uses a hash function [09:26]
freeone3000 It's also NOT like a hash function in that is has inbuilt repudiation protection [09:27]
Faux Yeah but. It's not a preimage attack on a hash function. [09:27]
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sonOfRa oh what the hell [10:28]
sonOfRa Since when is keybase running some kind of cryptocurrency scheme [10:28]
KekSi this week [10:40]
KekSi the 9th i think [10:40]
fotato They sent me fake money. [10:41]
fotato I?m RICH [10:41]
sonOfRa yeah me too [10:42]
sonOfRa That's how I noticed [10:42]
sonOfRa $20.87 USD! [10:42]
fotato Is there even a way of withdrawing it [10:45]
fotato Because if not that number is meaningless. [10:46]
sonOfRa probably not [10:46]
sonOfRa https://twitter.com/ChexMix/status/1171074279313743873 [11:12]
sonOfRa sonOfRa's title: "Chex Mix on Twitter: "Don't have a bookmark? Try using Chex Mix instead pic.twitter.com/MqcNedloE1"" [11:12]
fotato oh my [12:18]
ron I LIKE TO MOVE IT MOVE IT [12:50]
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sonOfRa I LIKE TO [12:54]
fotato MOVE IT. [01:03]
sonOfRa neat, SSD actually arrived. [01:26]
fotato I just ate a pile of fried food I am shame [01:30]
Faux sonOfRa: \o/ [01:32]
sonOfRa soon we will see if I can actually move this education license to the "new" ssd [01:32]
sonOfRa because MS seems to remember it is an edu license [01:32]
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freeone3000 sonOfRa: Which version of windows is it? [02:36]
fotato any scylla fiends here? trying t o override scylla-mnager's config ina docker-compose [02:37]
fotato god this keybaord sucks [02:37]
sonOfRa "Windows 10 Education" [02:40]
sonOfRa But first I need to create a USB stick, which apparently failed in the first attempt [02:45]
tang^ I'd let the manufacturers create the USB stick [02:47]
freeone3000 okay, I can't actually generate Edu keys [02:50]
sonOfRa Can I somehow tell the media creation tool to use D:\ for inbetween storage [02:56]
sonOfRa I'm suspecting it's failing because C:\ is dying [02:56]
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ron whaley: [03:05]
fotato ron: [03:06]
whaley fotato: [03:24]
fotato the love triangle is complete. [03:24]
whaley the holy triumvirate of freenode has formed [03:24]
whaley I fucking did deadlifts yesterday [03:25]
whaley awful experience [03:25]
whaley how do you lot enjoy such things [03:25]
fotato by not being shit at them [03:26]
whaley I am probably shit at them tobh [03:26]
whaley *tbh [03:26]
whaley it's been probably a decade since I've done a true deadlift (I do RDLs up to about 135lbs with some regularity) [03:26]
whaley i'm going to chalk it up to being tall and probably having a relatively weak lower back [03:27]
ron I call bs, but ok. [03:35]
tang^ he was just asking for a backrub, okay? [03:36]
whaley seriously, that's all I really wanted. I was just too afraid to ask [03:38]
whaley I think what I need is a hex bar with elevated handles [03:40]
whaley or, I'll just skip deadlifts because I'm not a moron [03:40]
ron it's the other way around [03:42]
tang^ he'll skip the moron because he's a deadlift? [03:43]
ron yes [03:43]
whaley ron: serious question, do you use a hex bar or just a regular barbell? [03:46]
ron whaley: depends. normally I use a barbell, but from time to time, I use a hex bar (like the last few weeks). I think it's great to use a hex bar if you have concerns with a barbell. [03:48]
fotato i usee both because FATFOD tells me to [03:51]
fotato at the same time. [03:51]
ron at the *same* time. .wow. [03:52]
ron also, fuck the mac keyboard [03:52]
fotato what is it with me, st louis and injuring my extremities. just stubbed my toes really bloody hard on my hotel bathroom door [03:52]
fotato ..... how? [03:52]
ron good [03:52]
fotato wow ron [03:52]
fotato that's... wow [03:53]
whaley fotato: are you at STRANGE LOOP [03:53]
fotato yes, i am at STRANGER DANGER [03:53]
whaley is it still being run by alex PURE DANGER miller [03:53]
fotato it is run by his sexiness himself, alex 'have my babies' miller. [03:53]
fotato how do you know him? [03:54]
whaley he had my babies [03:54]
fotato i've never actually spoken to the guy but he's got a surprisingly excellent and widely varied taste in music [03:54]
whaley I went the 2nd strange loop when it was only like 200 people [03:55]
whaley now it's about 20000000 people [03:55]
ron omg his twitter handle is strangerdanger [03:55]
fotato https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/875768049726406656/igHjl8Vc_400x400.jpg look. at. that. face. [03:55]
fotato thats pretty cool whaley [03:55]
fotato that photo's about 6 years old afaik [03:56]
ron so are you [03:56]
whaley I've got another teammate there right now [03:56]
fotato oh cool [03:56]
fotato i'll keep an eye out for the dude with a broken back [03:56]
fotato and incapable of making obvious name based jokes [03:56]
whaley hahaha [03:57]
ron yawn [03:59]
fotato everyone, ron is bored [03:59]
ron no [04:00]
ron ron is tired [04:00]
ron whaley: want me to show you how to deadlift without killing yourself? [04:03]
whaley ron: sure [04:03]
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ron ok, next time you come to visit me we'll go to my gym [04:04]
sonOfRa jesus christ why [04:05]
ron why what? [04:06]
sonOfRa I had to physically unplug all my other hard drives, or the windows installer would refuse to properly format and partition the new SSD and tell me that windows can't be installed on it [04:06]
sonOfRa This should not be necessary [04:06]
ron freeone3000 can answer that [04:06]
sonOfRa The reason is probably "don't even try to install windows on a system with multiple disks, it doesn't work [04:07]
sonOfRa " [04:07]
whaley ron: :( [04:09]
freeone3000 nope, that's weird [04:13]
ryan2215 parted the channel: [04:25]
sonOfRa hooking up the license was automatic when I signed in with my account \o/ [04:29]
freeone3000 Told you! It works! [04:30]
sonOfRa now to reboot and replugin all the other drives and see if ubuntu still works. [04:30]
freeone3000 Well except for the disk thing, that was weird. [04:30]
freeone3000 No, the windows install wiped your bootloader [04:30]
freeone3000 Yes, even if you had grub in efi. It deletes all other efi programs. [04:30]
freeone3000 if you're running bitlocker, you need to keep the windows efi program and *not* chainload, use your uefi switcher instead of grub to select OS [04:31]
sonOfRa But the hard drive with ubuntu wasn't plugged in! [04:31]
freeone3000 sonOfRa: That's not where the bootloader is stored and hasn't been since 2012 [04:31]
sonOfRa oh right [04:31]
sonOfRa actually it should still work [04:32]
sonOfRa I've been selecting that way for a while because every windows update broke ubuntu [04:32]
freeone3000 not *every* windows update, just the ones that reinstall the OS [04:32]
sonOfRa looks like it still works [04:33]
sonOfRa The windows chainload entry in grub doesn't work anymore but eh [04:33]
sonOfRa I don't need that anyhow [04:33]
freeone3000 that one breaks bitlocker, so don't use it. also, use bitlocker. [04:33]
[twisti] dear brit friends, is this real ? https://imgur.com/gallery/wgAjRyQ [04:34]
sonOfRa no tpm :D [04:34]
sonOfRa So since group policies get nuked on updates [04:35]
sonOfRa What happens if I set the group policy to allow bitlocker without tpm [04:35]
sonOfRa Then update [04:35]
sonOfRa Or do I only need that group policy when first enabling bitlocker? [04:36]
ron whaley: why the long face? [04:39]
whaley ron: because I'm an asshole and you know it [04:39]
ron whaley: yup [04:39]
sonOfRa There we go. IRC, Mail, Steam are installed again on the new disk. Hooray. [05:03]
tang^ all the important bits [05:05]
sonOfRa For the play-not-work systems, yes :D [05:06]
sonOfRa Teamspeak and all the games are missing, but other than that [05:06]
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db morning [09:00]
db https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/whSyOZeg/IMG_20190913_080121435.jpg [09:03]
db they enjoy the internet [09:03]
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dodobrain db, heh [10:54]