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| db |
a couple months ago our team decided against using @Nullable annotations and annotaiton-based null analysis, because we concluded that it adds a lot of unnecessary null-checks to our code. we had examples where there were 60 null checks in a class (and nested checks like requireNonNull(requireNonNull(foo).getBar()) |
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| db |
can anyone share their strong opinion on this topic? I'm curious |
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| db |
because there is this guy who I think was on vacation or something when we made that decision and he is furious. but he never comes up with any good explanation why those null-checks are needed. |
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| db |
like he claims readability but I think the very opposite is the case. |
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| db |
Of course I understand the idea but I just think it doesn't work out very well in reality. |
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| Faux |
Huh? The purpose of the nonnull annotation is to make it obvious that the null check isn't needed, and to reduce them? Adding Nullable everywhere then being surprised that stuff is nullable seems strange. Which way around is it surprising to you? |
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| db |
maybe it is due to the way the framework is set up. all the entities' properties "have to be" nullable (I didn't really look into this but I think it is so that the beans can be created empty and then have their properties set? well, it leads to *having to* check all properties for null even though them being null is not a thing that happens in reality because e.g. vlidation on the REST-side dto makes sure it isn't null |
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| db |
or it is not nullable in the database etc. |
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| db |
I mean I was wondering all along that maybe we're just doing something hugely wrong there. I havent seen this being used before and here it sure wasn't of any help. |
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| db |
well consider entity.id ... it sure is nullable. but I know that it is never nullable after I saved an object to the database. I don't want to check it. if it is null then something went wrong and I'm totally fine with getting an NPE. no? |
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| db |
*never null |
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| db |
I mean, when I get an object from the O/R layer I could say "who knows what that thing did, I have to validate all properties" but where does that end |
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| sonOfRa |
Ah yes, the joy of appointments with german bureaucrats |
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| sonOfRa |
Needed a new ID and set my new address |
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| sonOfRa |
Turns out, I still have a "second address" where my parents live (I don't, it's a mistake on their part) |
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| sonOfRa |
I have had that address since September 1st, 1939 (not a typo!) |
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| sonOfRa |
54 years before I was born |
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| scav |
Well, if you hate it so much, sonOfRa, why don't you go back to where you came from! |
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| sonOfRa |
To the house that I apparently live in since 1939, which was built in 1968, I guess? :D |
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| db |
maybe you can use that somehow |
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| db |
like when applying for vaccination. |
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| scav |
sonOfRa: i don't know what to tell you - yes? :D |
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| scav |
irccloud has this feature? i had no idea - thats cool |
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| scav |
https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/m6J5s2oq/image.png |
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| db |
freenode has usermode +R |
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| db |
but I didn't know that spam detection feature either |
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| scav |
i know, but i never neeeded it |
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| scav |
but this spam thing was nice, i clicked the button and i could just mark any message i wanted to delete and never see |
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| acuzio |
morning ladies |
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| acuzio |
another first this week ., I went and told someone on email "I cant look at this now , you will have to come back to me in 2 weeks" . |
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| acuzio |
I have never done that |
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| [twisti] |
good job |
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| [twisti] |
first step towards mental wellbeing |
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| acuzio |
I think given that i have been the top-performer in the 3 years i have been here ., its time to actually act like one and go "Sorry , i am slammed" |
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| puppy_za |
finally admit that you are only human |
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| acuzio |
There is that too - |
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| Faux |
Sorry, I can't perform today, I need to be slammed. |
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| acuzio |
yes thank you Faux |
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| mbooth |
sonOfRa: German Government has figured out you are a timelord? |
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| Faux |
Sorry, I can't perform in this position, I need to be slammed. |
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| acuzio |
yes thank you Faux |
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| acuzio |
Welcome to London , UK https://www.theguardian.com/business/2021/feb/24/london-dollar-millionaires-new-york-covid-crisis-assets-wealth |
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| acuzio |
acuzio's title: "London has more dollar millionaires than New York | Rich lists | The Guardian" |
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| mbooth |
acuzio: Lol, being a millionaire means nothing if having a one-bed flat you can't liquidate makes you one. |
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| acuzio |
mbooth: Its not just that, i am a lot more peeved by the gap .. the UK has more disparity than the US and this was not the roadmap. |
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| acuzio |
https://i.imgur.com/Myp0WM6.png |
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| acuzio |
<------------- No more politics for the day ---------------> |
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| Maldivia |
but... it's independence day |
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| mbooth |
Maldivia: acuzio talks about politics every day but nothing changes. It's clearly idempotence day. |
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| sonOfRa |
oof |
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| sonOfRa |
that was *terrible* |
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| mbooth |
*I'm* amused by my jokes, and that's all that matters :-D |
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| Faux |
Amen. |
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| acuzio |
I take 1 political story a day and thats it . Theres nothing I can about it but it is what it is |
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| acuzio |
In non-political stories : here is the quote i am getting for Philips MV bulbs https://i.imgur.com/eQxkn7C.png ; We are now running into April for trade prices of Spotlights. |
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| acuzio |
And those trade prices have gone up as well ; , just spoke to the advisor and yes its a result of the dreaded "B-word" ;; |
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| mbooth |
Hey you said no more politics |
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| acuzio |
here is the thing , i dont want to engage with politics , i just dont seem to be having an option - |
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| acuzio |
What would you do if you are getting fucked at every junction |
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| sonOfRa |
Buy lube, most like |
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| freeone3000 |
And I'm back. Pi is now a dedicated IRC server. |
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| freeone3000 |
Nvidia shield is... kind of badass? Like, Android TV is actually a really slick system. And it runs Kodi, so I don't see the point in a dedicated OSMC system anymore. It's also a Chromecast, so I can move my old Chromecast upstairs. And then there's Game Streaming... |
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| freeone3000 |
The remote even has IR for volume! And between that and HDMI-CEC, I have a unified remote and it didn't cost me $200. (Well, it did. But not for just the remote!) |
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| [twisti] |
does anyone understand whats going on with this weird nonsensical spam here today ? |
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| acuzio |
sonOfRa: The process usually goes like this : "talk to the builder,electrician etc. , research what you want , place order based on stock, receive info 3 days later that its now March, April and completely out of scope" ; Start again and this is for every single fucking product. |
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| sonOfRa |
( |
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| acuzio |
Its just debilitating and really really painful , the worst part of this is I dont understand why what seems to be that no one else can see it |
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| acuzio |
freeone3000: NVidia Sheild is badass ; I am glad that someone else likes it as well cause its not really as popular as it should be |
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| acuzio |
freeone3000: Do you have the Pro or the normal one ? |
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| [twisti] |
im super confused, acuzio. you are debilitated and 'really, really in pain' over half a dozen $7 bulbs ? just buy any random shit off of amazon ? |
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| acuzio |
[twisti]: a) I am not _only_ buying bulbs and its not just half-a-dozen b) This is for every single product i am buying , almost every single product. c) I _dont_ want to buy any random shit off of Amazon. This is my home , i have spent 18 years working towards this . Why am I being deprived off what i want because some fuckers have lied and do not like Brown faces in their supermarkets |
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| acuzio |
This is not just vanity , this is researched stuff that in the longer run is less expensive, more reliable, has better support. As an example , if i look at bulbs , i want "high-CRI, high-lumen" LED bulbs. Why ? Because my eyesight is fucking absolutely terrible. |
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| acuzio |
These specific bulbs have 40,000 hours lifetime , nation wide support, fit into standard GU10 low-profile holders , are extremely high-cri + high-lumen ; I am quite simply unable to find any other bulb that does that , with those specific properties. If there are , I am happy to go and buy them. |
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| freeone3000 |
acuzio: I bought the 2019 Pro, because some people claimed it was better at game streaming and the price difference was $20. |
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| sonOfRa |
freeone3000: ooh, it runs kodi, so it can mount smb shares, right? |
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| sonOfRa |
I hate using our PS4 for streaming video from my hard drives because it only does shitty streaming and can't actually mount network shares |
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| sonOfRa |
dlna they call it, and it just never fucking works right |
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| freeone3000 |
sonOfRa: Yep! Happily plays off of my NAS. Bonus: It has enough grunt to decode 480p DivX in software! |
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| sonOfRa |
Neat. Might just get one next month or so when the finances look better |
[07:24]
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| sonOfRa |
Actually maybe a >720p TV first. |
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| sonOfRa |
So many things to buy. Also kinda want a washer+dryer combo, but those are *expensive* espcially if you want a dryer that uses a heat pump. |
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| freeone3000 |
There's actually a lot of cheaper devices with the same featureset. I was literally using a rpi for the same thing, and it worked acceptably as long as my content was all h.264, and would probably be better if it was a pi 4 instead of a pi zero. |
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| freeone3000 |
If you don't need the game streaming, get a random Android TV device. |
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| sonOfRa |
Game streaming is nice occasionally |
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| sonOfRa |
But I'm afraid I'll have to be making sensible grown up purchases for a while before I can indulge in these things again |
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| freeone3000 |
Yeah, I feel that. I've got a new dishwasher and a water heater on my list. |
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| sonOfRa |
Still considering maybe buying washing machine and a heat pump dryer separately, but then it's two devices instead of one, which is inconvenient! |
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| freeone3000 |
one device, in that, they share a drum? |
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| freeone3000 |
that's one of those things that I logically assumed would exist, but, I've never actually seen |
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| sonOfRa |
yeah |
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| sonOfRa |
However, it looks like the combination I want washer+dryer, and specifically the dryer being a heat pump is only manufactured by AEG |
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| sonOfRa |
And it has wifi, and costs almost 2000? |
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| sonOfRa |
I do not want my washing machine and dryer to have wifi |
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| scav |
why? don't you want to assist in ddos' and bitcoin mining? |
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| scav |
i mean im sure if there actually was a software issue with your toaster, the manufacturer would promptly release an easy to apply OTA fix for it? |
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| sonOfRa |
D |
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| sonOfRa |
always reminds me of this https://i.imgur.com/VB5Y0VK.png |
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| fotato |
Freeone3000: CEC really did sort of kill the universal remote market tbh. |
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| freeone3000 |
Good! |
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| fotato |
Yeah it?sa mostly good tech |
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| puppy_za |
sonOfRa: I heard that combined (washing machine with dryer) one doesn't work too well. I have them separate. (To be fair, I only use dryer for 3 months in a year. So I could have just get the washing machine) |
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| scav |
haha, sonOfRa 100% :D |
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| db |
Washer+dryers do exist, I have used a coin-operated one in Japan |
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| Faux |
Heh, look at you fancy people living in big houses. My parents own a non-washer-dryer, that's how posh they are. |
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| freeone3000 |
They are just not a thing in NA. Even small houses/condos here use stackable ones instead. |
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| mbooth |
I have separate washer and dryer, but doing so means I sacrificed the dishwasher. I don't mind washing the dishes so this is an acceptible compromise |
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| freeone3000 |
Do Europeans do laundry in the kitchen? |
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| mbooth |
In the UK it's very common yes |
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| mbooth |
Houses are not big enough for a separate room |
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| freeone3000 |
My laundry room is literally a closet. Like. It fits the washer and the dryer and literally nothing else. |
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| freeone3000 |
They're also stacked. But I get that it requires routing a separate water line and a separate exhaust vent, in addition to the kitchen one, so it kind of makes sense to combine them. |
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| sonOfRa |
freeone3000: it really depends on where you have space. If I buy a combo, it'll be in the guest bathroom, simply because that's where the water line is |
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| sonOfRa |
If we end up buying split devices, we'll either stack them, or put the drier in the basement |
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| mbooth |
freeone3000: I've seem a few inter-war houses that have moved the bathroom upstairs and turned the old downstairs bathroom into a laundry/utility space because that's where the plumbing exists |
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| freeone3000 |
(mine shares a wall with the kitchen, so they got to be lazy in that precise way.) |
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| freeone3000 |
sonOfRa: *just* the drier? no wonder you'd find a separate unit inconvenient! |
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| sonOfRa |
They do driers with outlet hoses, and driers with a water container, so you can put the drier up independently of water |
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| sonOfRa |
With stacks I'm always afraid a device may fall off |
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| freeone3000 |
Eight years no incidents! two manufacturers! no issues! the dryer being on top and lighter helps. |
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| Faux |
My sister's house is fancy, her kitchen is big enough that she's managed to hand a curtain across a corner, to keep the poor people appliances in. |
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| mbooth |
I assume you'd put a wall anchor in, in case an uneven loads might otherwise walk it off the cliff edge :-) |
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| freeone3000 |
mbooth: putting in a wall anchor will absolutely just rip holes in your wall and possibly shear the anchor |
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| Faux |
Are dryers significantly lighter than washing machines, due to lower spin rates? I don't really know. |
[08:50]
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| Faux |
Maybe they are higher spin rates. |
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| freeone3000 |
Faux: They're lighter due to not having a giant drum full of water. |
[08:50]
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| mbooth |
Faux: Washing machine has a concrete block in it |
[08:50]
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| Faux |
Yeah, but the concrete block is because of the heavy spinning stuff. |
[08:50]
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| mbooth |
Dryer does not |
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| Faux |
It still does the heavy spinning stuff, so I'd expect it to require counterweightance. |
[08:51]
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| mbooth |
Apparently not |
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| mbooth |
I can lift my dryer. I can only drag my washer |
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| Faux |
Heh. Sold. |
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| db |
A dryer spins slowly |
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| db |
A washer spins >1000rpm |
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| mbooth |
And crucially does not fill with water ;-) |
[08:52]
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| scav |
I love this quote: "Simply put, a data warehouse is a centrally managed, high-performance, scalable data repository for the enterprise that stores and models large quantities of current and historical data from multiple data sources for reporting and analytics. " |
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| db |
During spinning, water is drained |
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| freeone3000 |
And even then, a drum full of wet clothing is still going to be cheaper than *checks notes* *100L* of water |
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| scav |
I mean, thanks for making it simple |
[08:53]
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| freeone3000 |
4.4 cu ft. |
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| db |
Data whorehouse |
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| mbooth |
scav: A data warehouse is where Lt Geordie Laforge gets spare parts for his co-worker |
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| Faux |
We had a talk where someone said "data lake" and "data mart", and explained the difference. |
[08:54]
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| scav |
mbooth: hahaha :D |
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| scav |
mbooth++ |
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| scav |
mbooth has a karma level of 73, scav |
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| Faux |
A data mart is where you can buy pre-packaged water in bottles. |
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| mbooth |
scav: You said yourself: "For the Enterprise" |
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| Faux |
(From the lake.) |
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| freeone3000 |
Faux: the former's a columnular store, the latter's a oltp set of queries. |
[08:54]
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| Faux |
Oh, you mean, bigquery, and, uh, bigquery? |
[08:55]
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| freeone3000 |
in azure terms, that's Azure Data Lake and... Azure Data Lake. |
[08:55]
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| scav |
mbooth: yeah, i walked right into that one |
[08:55]
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| Faux |
<3 |
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| Faux |
Also known as "data money incinerator" and "data money incinerator with unexpected downtime". |
[08:55]
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| freeone3000 |
I wouldn't know. (We pay for Azure usage in imaginary money.) |
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| scav |
Faux: the amount of bullshit buzzwords in that field is just staggering |
[08:56]
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| freeone3000 |
Well, you can't fit it into SQL Server. Except you can, because Azure Data Lake is *backed by SQL Server* because SQL Server is kind of insane. |
[08:56]
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| Faux |
Maybe we can sell them some CD or some DoI. |
[08:56]
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| Faux |
Yes, I typed Dependency of Injection. Do you think French has rekt my brain? |
[08:57]
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| mbooth |
Faux: Yes. |
[08:57]
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| scav |
I am as confused as you are, Faux |
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| freeone3000 |
Mais, non, les langue francois n'est puet pas REKT non des cerebres. |
[08:58]
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| freeone3000 |
Though that would explain quebec. |
[08:58]
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| freeone3000 |
Alright, placed an order for DualShock 4 batteries (since one of my first-gens now has a dead battery). Off to work! |
[08:59]
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| Faux goes to a meeting which is supposed to actually be a meeting instead of a presentation, but has 176 invitees. |
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| scav |
i hate days like today, i have no inspiration, i don't want to do anything |
[09:02]
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| scav |
should probably call it a day and just do something else |
[09:02]
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| mbooth |
Faux: You can't possibly participate, so take advantage of the time to go make some coffee, scratch your balls, whatever. |
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| fotato |
Condenser dryers exist which don?t need exhausts, freeone3000 |
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| fotato |
would always recommend separate appliances though. You can pipeline loads. |
[09:03]
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| fotato |
Plus if one breaks at least you have the other. |
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| mbooth |
Annoyingly I can't plumb in my condenser to the drain. Emptying 5kg of water periodically is mandatory |
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| Faux |
I don't know where our dryer exhausts. |
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| fotato |
Probably connects to freenode as the user ?acuzio? |
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| mbooth |
fotato++ |
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| mbooth |
fotato has a karma level of 27, mbooth |
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| sonOfRa |
Nice, looks like I'm going back to 100% rather than 80% work as of march 1st |
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| acuzio |
yes thank you fotato |
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| puppy_za |
that sounds like job security |
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| puppy_za |
I am glad we are still on the dryer conversation |
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| acuzio |
mbooth: thats one of the changes i made ., i dont like having laundry in the kitchen so have a separate utility room - that has washer , dryer, separate drying cupboard ; She thinks this is stupid ; I dont agree |
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| mbooth |
If you are the one doing the laundry, then fair enough |
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| puppy_za |
which part of it is stupid? |
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| acuzio |
In NY for a long time i just went downstairs and put laundry in the common washer and well that worked |
[09:39]
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| acuzio |
puppy_za: She grew up in Edinburgh and having washer+dryer + dishwasher next to each other is standard practice |
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| puppy_za |
oh |
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| puppy_za |
I have the washer and dishwasher next to each other (because of the tap location) |
[09:41]
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| puppy_za |
dryer can really be anywhere that is close to a window or a ventilation point |
[09:41]
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| acuzio |
In my other flat thats exactly how it is as well - This time i decided to do something else |
[09:41]
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| puppy_za |
although I must say, it's convenient to have the dryer next to the washer |
[09:43]
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| scav |
sonOfRa: nice dude :D |
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| scav |
sonOfRa: was your pay reduced by 20% as well? |
[09:49]
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| sonOfRa |
not quite; the short work scheme from the govt covers 80% of the net income loss you take from the reduced work |
[09:50]
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| sonOfRa |
But it's still going to be something like 150 to 200? a month that I'll have extra |
[09:51]
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| sonOfRa |
And I still need to do my taxes, the taxes are a bit wonky around the extra short work money you get from the govt |
[09:51]
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| scav |
damn |
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| scav |
can't they just do that for you? |
[09:54]
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| scav |
taxes here in norway has been automated by this thing called computers for generations now |
[09:54]
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| fotato |
Always had a separate utility room growing up. It?s ace. |
[09:54]
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| fotato |
A sink, cleaning supplies, washer/dryer |
[09:55]
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| mbooth |
scav: Even for self-employed/freelances/contractors? |
[09:56]
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| fotato |
my parents house in Greece has a whole second kitchen as the utility room. Which I?ll admit is somewhat overkill. I think the previous owners had like. Servants or something. |
[09:56]
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| scav |
mbooth: no, not everything, but i dont know the details on that |
[09:56]
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| scav |
we have a parent company that pays our "salary" so we are taxed as normal employees |
[09:57]
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| Faux |
UMBRELLAH AH AH |
[09:57]
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| scav |
but there is more work, absolutely |
[09:57]
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| fotato |
Christ I hate people who don?t use the outlook scheduler when sending invites. Cue Gatling gun invite/update/cancel/invite/update stream |
[09:57]
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| mbooth |
scav: Hey, is it true that the Norwegian Navy puts QR-codes on their ships? So that when they come into port they can scan da navy in? |
[09:58]
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| scav |
dude rofl |
[09:58]
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| puppy_za |
that's funny |
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| fotato |
mbooth. Resident Dad. |
[10:02]
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| sonOfRa |
scav: it's mostly done for you, except for edge cases like this |
[10:06]
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| sonOfRa |
The whole short work stuff is mostly in case of really bad economic things happening |
[10:06]
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| sonOfRa |
Like, ya know, global pandemic |
[10:06]
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| scav |
i wonder how long we can keep these things up though |
[10:07]
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| scav |
norwegian economy is totally fucked long term after this, i cannot imagine germany is doing any better |
[10:07]
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| scav |
though, in our case it is just as much a case of population shrinking |
[10:07]
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| fotato |
Fake news |
[10:09]
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| fotato |
covid is a liberal hoax |
[10:09]
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| mbooth |
hoax is a literal covid |
[10:10]
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| mbooth |
When will we become a post-post-truth society? |
[10:10]
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| fotato |
Is that when we realise truth is good again? |
[10:12]
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| fotato |
I dunno man. Saw a clip off OANN where they were just. Taking the piss out of Biden?s dog. |
[10:13]
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| fotato |
Who makes fun of dogs? |
[10:13]
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| mbooth |
Even Hitler liked dogs. |
[10:13]
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| mbooth |
Literally worse than Hitler |
[10:14]
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| scav |
Never, if 2020 taught me anything, its that we are concerned with facts and digging for the actual truth on youtuber. |
[10:14]
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| fotato |
They were like THIS DOG DOES NOT LOOK HEALTHY |
[10:15]
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| fotato |
bitch. It?s old. |
[10:15]
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| fotato |
It?s just an old GSD. It looked perfectly healthy. |
[10:15]
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| mbooth |
HAHA, because Trump was the picture of health |
[10:15]
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| ron |
bitch. I'm old |
[10:15]
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| fotato |
Right? |
[10:15]
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| fotato |
Such double standards. |
[10:15]
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| fotato |
Ron, you?re not old. You?re vintage. |
[10:15]
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| mbooth |
"Legacy" |
[10:16]
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| fotato |
Also I have good friends way older than you. |
[10:16]
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| ron |
oh10qbb |
[10:16]
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| ron |
at least you have good friends |
[10:16]
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| fotato |
What the fuck is that password string. |
[10:17]
|
| scav |
oh, ron is awake |
[10:18]
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| scav |
here to spread happiness and joy |
[10:18]
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| mbooth |
I think it's IYVE (Internet Yobbo Vernacular English) |
[10:18]
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| fotato |
mbooth they were doing this while Texans were literally freezing to death and Cruz was in cancun too. |
[10:18]
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| ron |
will you be my good friend scav |
[10:18]
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| mbooth |
fotato: Quelle surprise |
[10:18]
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| fotato |
No I?ll be your good friend fotato |
[10:18]
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| fotato |
commas. How do they work? |
[10:19]
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| mbooth |
pfm |
[10:19]
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| mbooth |
pure fucking magic |
[10:19]
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| ron |
comas how do they work |
[10:19]
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| mbooth |
Just -: , throw em , anywhere :- |
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| fotato |
easy there, christophuzio walken |
[10:22]
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| mbooth |
The acuzio theory of punctuation: "More punctuation is more better." |
[10:22]
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| mbooth |
That's just science |
[10:23]
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| fotato |
"More punctuation - is More better,." |
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| fotato |
FTFY |
[10:23]
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| mbooth |
Thanks babydoll |
[10:23]
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| ron |
did youu mean - that's just more science? |
[10:23]
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| fotato |
maybe acuzio is just always writing clojure |
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| acuzio |
yes thank you fotato |
[10:30]
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| ron |
managed to kill my mac, had to restart |
[10:30]
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| ron |
but I'm back so you can relax |
[10:30]
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| fotato |
you didnt kill it, you just knocked it out. |
[10:30]
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| fotato |
i'm always relaxed dude. |
[10:31]
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| fotato |
well, FSVO relaxed |
[10:31]
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| ron |
yeah right |
[10:31]
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| fotato |
i mean sure, slowly going blind in one eye and losing multiple family members in the space of a few weeks does raise the relax baseline somewhat. |
[10:32]
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| acuzio |
re: Taxes : The UK Gov has a great website for this except its only understandable to accountants so there are other apps that make it better and guess what , the fucking API for the thing is a nightmare . the worse part is you submit taxes , the app says "Yo taxes submitted, here is proof from HMRC" , HMRC goes "Sorry, taxes , what taxes , please to pay" . I am like "fuck this2 |
[10:32]
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| ron |
re taxes? are you bitching about taxes again? |
[10:33]
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| fotato |
acuzio i used gosimpletax to file my UK taxes. it was pretty straightforward |
[10:33]
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| acuzio |
why are you going blind fotato ; (other than the usual reason) |
[10:33]
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| ron |
man, you're just like the rest of those republicans |
[10:33]
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| fotato |
the usual reason being? |
[10:33]
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| acuzio |
ron: STFU |
[10:33]
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| ron |
why because you're a republican? |
[10:33]
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| acuzio |
fotato: too much masturbation - have you not read your fucking scriptures |
[10:33]
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| fotato |
acuzio: i have CRVO in my right eye which caused a macular edema which i got treatment for. |
[10:33]
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| fotato |
but it's a bandaid untnil we can identify potential root causes. |
[10:34]
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| ron |
have you tried not being a republican? |
[10:34]
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| mbooth |
An immaculate enema? |
[10:34]
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| fotato |
macular. |
[10:34]
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| fotato |
fluid between retina and eyeball wall. |
[10:34]
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| ron |
drink more fluids |
[10:35]
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| fotato |
untreated will result in total loss |
[10:35]
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| acuzio |
that suckx dude |
[10:35]
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| fotato |
they bandaid it by injecting a drug originally used for chemo directly into the eyeball |
[10:35]
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| fotato |
ironically two of the potential side effects are 'vision loss, retinal detachment' |
[10:35]
|
| acuzio facepalms |
[10:35]
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| mbooth |
Eyeronically |
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| fotato eyes mbooth |
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| fotato |
or should that be eye |
[10:36]
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| ron |
mbooth++ |
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| ron |
mbooth has a karma level of 74, ron |
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| acuzio |
being generous today i see ron |
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| mbooth |
ronsnack |
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| mbooth |
mbooth, what does that even *mean*? |
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| ron |
acuzio-- |
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| ron |
acuzio has a karma level of 51, ron |
[10:42]
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| ron |
gotta balance things out |
[10:42]
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| acuzio |
fotato: Actually gosimpletax is also another one i have used in the past ., its also got the same issue , immediate feedback but is not reflected on the HMRC site. |
[10:42]
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| acuzio |
yes thank you ron |
[10:42]
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| acuzio |
In other news , Teenage girls are terrifying |
[10:43]
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| ron |
you're terrifying too |
[10:43]
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| ron |
ergo |
[10:43]
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| ron |
acuzio is a teenage giirl |
[10:43]
|
| ron |
giiiiiiiiiiirl |
[10:43]
|
| sonOfRa |
guuuuuuurl |
[10:43]
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| mbooth |
Carolation is not causation. |
[10:45]
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| acuzio |
yeah exactly ; Friend related an incident about his daughter and her friend going to meet another friend and bitching about her all the way and then turning on a dime when they saw her ; he says and i quote "mate, i couldnt believe how smooth they were" ; |
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| acuzio |
(he was driving) |
[10:46]
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| acuzio |
I once found myself in a bus with teenage girls at the back talking about stuff and i have to say it freaked me out ; i quietly moved up front |
[10:47]
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| ron |
mbooth: what about Karenation? |
[10:47]
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| mbooth |
ron: I'm afraid I need to speak to your manager. |
[10:49]
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| mbooth |
Surprised you would get on a peasant wagon, er, I mean bus |
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| sonOfRa |
ugh, more painting to do. |
[10:58]
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| sonOfRa |
Last 2 rooms though, then we can hand over keys to old place and get our deposit back! |
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| scav |
nice, will you be painting more at the new place? |
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| fotato |
acuzio: you're rich you should be paying an accountant anyway |
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| freeone3000 |
I paid an accountant once. Cost me $5000 for them to basically ask me for a bunch of information and all they did was fill out some forms for me. No thanks. |
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| fotato |
mine only cost like £500? |
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| fotato |
and it gives you legal protection from doing it wrong. |
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| ron |
did you mean lol protection? |
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| freeone3000 |
I mean, so does mine, but the legal protection is... unncessary? Like, I got audited, and all that happened was a guy from the IRS called me and asked me some questions and told me I filled out a form wrong and told me to fill it out better next time. |
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| freeone3000 |
He was actually nicer to me than my actual accountant was. |
[11:11]
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| freeone3000 |
Oh, and I had to pay back the $3000 from the year I earned income but forgot to file taxes. |
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| fotato |
yeah i man |
[11:12]
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| fotato |
mean |
[11:12]
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| fotato |
my situation is probably a little more complicated? |
[11:12]
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| ron |
flex |
[11:12]
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| fotato |
not at all, freeone3000 is probably richer than me. |
[11:12]
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| freeone3000 |
It's possible. But I'm a homeowner with dual tax residency and income streams in both countries. |
[11:13]
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| freeone3000 |
If you've got a business, yours is worse for sure. |
[11:13]
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| mbooth |
What are the tax implications of being a homeowner? |
[11:13]
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| freeone3000 |
mbooth: ZOUNDS. |
[11:13]
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| mbooth |
I mean, I'm a homeowner, but it has no bearing on my income tax. |
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| freeone3000 |
then you don't pay tax in the US or Canada, there's like a hundred line items modified by this. |
[11:14]
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| mbooth |
o_O |
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| freeone3000 |
for instance, my mortgage interest is tax-deductible but only the interest on the first $250,000 of the loan. |
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| mbooth |
Is it because your home is your place of business? |
[11:16]
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| freeone3000 |
no. that's treated separate. |
[11:16]
|
| mbooth boggles |
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| freeone3000 |
it's to encourage home ownership, but it's also means-tested, because it was introduced by democrats. |
[11:17]
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| freeone3000 |
you should see the marriage incentives! they're even more insane! |
[11:17]
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| ron |
umm |
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| ron |
I think google just suggested I get a beehive hairdo |
[11:18]
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| mbooth |
ron: More like a hairdon't, amiright? |
[11:18]
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| ron |
asked google what's my schedule, it said I have a haircut and that beehives are back in style ? |
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| deepy |
It might also have suggested that you become a beekeeper |
[11:23]
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| deepy |
honey is delicious and never goes out of style |
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| tang^ |
mead might be an accompanying hobby |
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| fotato |
Ron would look fabulous with a beehive ?do |
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| tang^ |
seconded |
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| fotato |
It?s a shame he?d never follow through. |
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| fotato |
ron: https://scontent-den4-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/151951080_10106804433547534_8139641628135371028_n.jpg?_nc_cat=107&ccb=3&_nc_sid=825194&_nc_ohc=c5Ha6x6haaYAX8Mw-ix&_nc_ht=scontent-den4-1.xx&oh=9599f72f795740fa374bc1523b27bfe5&oe=605BD62C |
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| mbooth |
fotato: If Linda McCartney sausages are anything to go by, it will not contain real human :-/ |
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| ron |
fotato: ???? |
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| ron |
ok, time for a haircut |
[12:23]
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| fotato |
Getting a beehive? |
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| ron |
we'll see ;) |
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| freeone3000 |
fotato: It's Tashen for humans, I don't see a problem. (Honestly that box of pastries looks absolutely delish.) |
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| freeone3000 |
I seriously worry the next time I set foot in a grocery store I'm going to buy one of every turnover in the aisle. |
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| fotato |
they're called hamentashen, freeone3000 |
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| fotato |
someone put a space in and spellcheck chose the one which wasnt hymen. |
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| acuzio |
fotato exactly what freeone3000 said ., re : accountant and in my case the worst part was he filed it wrongly and I was liable for the fines. 16K in 2015 |
[12:47]
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| acuzio |
and freeone3000 is also right with dual homeowner and dual citizenship and dual income streams ; its fucking mad and accountants dont really help ; You have to understand this shit |
[12:49]
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| acuzio |
In even more other news , I have been promoted; I was Manager for NA and EMEA ., I am now Manager, Global. |
[12:59]
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| acuzio |
Official title is quite funny : SE Manager, Global ; report into a VP , Next step up would be that. |
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| freeone3000 |
Congrats. |
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| Faux |
Mangler, Global. |
[01:14]
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| Faux |
In need of a reaming. |
[01:14]
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| freeone3000 |
In other good news: Notepad now supports shutdown events! |
[01:17]
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| ron |
you literally are saes |
[01:24]
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| ron |
sales |
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| ron |
acuzio: so now you're making $2M/y? |
[01:24]
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| freeone3000 |
huh. surfacebooks perform *way* better if you turn off the display. turns out you can't push 4k on a *checks notes* Intel Iris. Go figure. |
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| acuzio |
freeone3000: ta mate |
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| acuzio |
Faux: Exactly that , Mangler (Global) |
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| acuzio |
ron: I have always said , I am literally sales. I was never in I.T Always in Pre-Sales , since i left pure finance (aka HF and Banks). |
[02:51]
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| acuzio |
ron: nope, not even close. |
[02:51]
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| acuzio |
I think only big change now will be managing folks who are in Australia, China and in LA . Not to mention in EU time zones , those are the two big swings. |
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| acuzio |
And i have 4 new reqs open , i fucking hate recruiting cause i dont like anyone |
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| ricky_clarkson |
Do you have to like them? |
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| ron |
acuzio: oh wow, so like $10M/year?! |
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| scav |
lol check out GME |
[04:26]
|
| scav |
reddit is down as well |
[04:26]
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| freeone3000 |
that was the world's shortest spike. |
[04:27]
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| scav |
103% market, 30% after hours, i mean...wtf |
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| Samian |
hello |
[04:30]
|
| scav |
hello |
[04:30]
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| freeone3000 |
oh you don't have access to fine-grained data |
[04:30]
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| fotato |
acuzio: i'll make it easy for you - hire me! |
[04:31]
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| freeone3000 |
scav: https://imgur.com/a/UyJmOCy |
[04:31]
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| fotato |
and ron! |
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| Samian |
freeone3000 I just applied for a job at Microsoft. Quick question, one of the questions was whether I have a disability, noting that Microsoft tries to maintain a certain % of employee with disability in order to get gov benefits. Do you know if interviewers see that info and what the impact is? |
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| ron |
don't hire me |
[04:31]
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| ron |
nobody wants to hire me |
[04:31]
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| fotato |
i'd hire you, ron |
[04:31]
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| scav |
freeone3000: i do, i just didn't bother checking as norwegian markets have been closed for 6 hours. i did not notice that nice |
[04:31]
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| fotato |
no idea what for. |
[04:31]
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| sonOfRa |
could hire ron as your personal ron |
[04:32]
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| freeone3000 |
...norwegian markets have nothing to do with gamestop though? |
[04:32]
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| freeone3000 |
are you trading GME on NØRDSTOCK? |
[04:32]
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| fotato |
is scav doing a dumb |
[04:32]
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| scav |
freeone3000: no, thats my point, i was just looking at what ever people posted at twitter now |
[04:33]
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| sonOfRa |
GÅMESTØP |
[04:33]
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| fotato |
lie when i accidentally traded DOW instead of DJI ? |
[04:33]
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| fotato |
(which has had a pretty great return tbh) |
[04:33]
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| fotato |
s/DJI/SPDR/ |
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| scav |
i prefer to not have stocks in foreign markets because it means im "on" 12,5h a day, and i just can't do that |
[04:34]
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| freeone3000 |
most people who buy stocks just buy stocks and sort of ... let them sit. |
[04:34]
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| freeone3000 |
I'm interested, though, since that means you don't have exposure to NYSE. |
[04:34]
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| scav |
i do, at times, just not all year around |
[04:37]
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| scav |
i mean i buy stocks, but i also buy warrants, calls, etc - i just like to gamble i guess |
[04:38]
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| scav |
GME @ 133? wth |
[04:39]
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| fotato |
i'm assuming freeone3000 has samjam on ignore. |
[04:39]
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| ron |
what is samjam |
[04:40]
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| Faux |
Celebrity dating name for Samain and T3. |
[04:41]
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| Faux |
D3. |
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| ron |
hot |
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| ron |
WHO ARE YOU ALL THOSE CRAZY PEOPLE WHO THINK THAT HAMENTASCHENS ACTUALLY TASTE GOOD AND YOU WANT TO EAT THEM WHO WHO WHO |
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| sonOfRa |
what is a hamentaschen |
[04:59]
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| sonOfRa |
It sounds vaguely german (I guess yiddish?) |
[04:59]
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| freeone3000 |
It looks like a pastry with filling? so by default, it's delicious. |
[04:59]
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| sonOfRa |
Yeah that looks pretty good |
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| ron |
yiddish indeed |
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| ron |
it is not delicious no |
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| scav |
yiddish? explain please |
[05:02]
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| freeone3000 |
in what way do you mess up a fruit-filled cookie? |
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| sonOfRa |
scav: yiddish is kind of somewhere between german and hebrew, spoken by a lot of jewish people, mainly in europe, not sure how much yiddish there is in the US |
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| scav |
thanks |
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| ron |
yiddish is still alive, but it's definitely a dying language |
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| freeone3000 |
it's a thing. mostly in new york. quebec seems to have missed it. |
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| freeone3000 |
Jews here are of the orthodox hasidic variety, so no creoling. not even with french. |
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| ron |
it's more common among ashkenazi orthodox jews |
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| ron |
which explains brooklyn |
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| fotato |
Nothing explains Brooklyn. |
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| ron |
racist |
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| ron |
why do I want ice cream |
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| ron |
and ffs why is it snowing again |
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| scav |
weather bergen norway |
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| scav |
Weather for Bergen, Norway | 44 F (6 C) | humidity at 93 | broken clouds | Thu, 25 Feb 2021 00:08:46 +0100 |
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| ron |
weather fort collins |
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| ron |
Weather for Fort Collins, CO, USA | 33 F (0 C) | humidity at 55 | light snow | Wed, 24 Feb 2021 16:09:08 -0700 |
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| scav |
( |
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| ron |
why sad |
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| scav |
because i love snow |
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| scav |
only 3 days left and i'll drive to the cabin for a week for snow and -10C, sunshine all week i hope |
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| ron |
snow sucks |
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| ron |
I mean ok it's better than rain |
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| ron |
as long as it doesn't stick |
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| scav |
i guess if you dont ski it sucks |
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| ron |
skiing is a guaranteed way for me to break something in my body |
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| ron |
also, I wouldn't ski in my back yard so no need for snow here |
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| fotato |
yay snow! |
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| fotato |
boo busted knee :( |
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| fotato |
Re ice cream, I always want it more in cold weather. |
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| ricky_clarkson |
weather pleasanton ca |
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| ricky_clarkson |
Weather for Pleasanton, CA, USA | 65 F (18 C) | humidity at 9 | clear sky | Wed, 24 Feb 2021 16:28:12 -0800 |
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| ricky_clarkson |
At this rate I'll need some socks on before long |
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| Samian |
ricky_clarkson still studying AI/ML ? |
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| Samian |
I'm reading this book right now: https://www.deeplearningbook.org/ I really like it |
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| fotato |
I assume he didn?t get the Amazon job. |
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