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KekSi [KekSi!~KekSi@x4db38326.dyn.telefonica.de] has joined #java-talk [12:03]
puppy_za me too [02:38]
puppy_za and morning [02:38]
puppy_za I mean the IRCcloud part, not the porn-in-a-container part [02:38]
ricky_clarkson freeone3000: That sounds nifty for letting me log in to just YT Music on the RPi (no system logins, multiple users, nosy kids) [02:41]
ricky_clarkson assuming FF runs similarly to Chromium on an RPi. [02:41]
sonOfRa morning [03:06]
puppy_za hi sonOfRa [03:51]
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[twisti] britfolk, i need your help! i want to say 'im not sure whether a or b', but in the sentence, its 'im not sure whether a was ever correct or b', and that sounds wrong to me. would i use a second 'whether' in that context ? the whole sentence with two whethers, which also doesnt sound quite right, would be 'im not sure whether this was ever correct or whether it was changed during development after the post' [06:05]
db fritbolk [07:04]
db I'm obviously not a native speaker but I think, while the second "whether" seems redundant, it doesn't sound particularly bad. [07:06]
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Diablo-D3 [twisti]: "Im not sure if a or b was ever correct" is (a and b) = ? [08:55]
acuzio morning ladies [09:06]
acuzio I am sad [09:10]
acuzio Looks like our Republican folks had a nice little scam going on and the stupid media managed to shine light on it and its now gone. It was lovely to see primarily 65+ year olds going "I only wanted to give 200 USD , but they have taken 10 times that , i dont know what to do". My answer of course would have been : You wanted it , i am glad you are being fucked [09:13]
Diablo-D3 acuzio: yeah, but a functioning society doesn't blame the victims, and helps those who do not have the intellectual capacity to help themselves [09:14]
sonOfRa we've long since known that acuzio doesn't *want* a functioning society, so that's irrelevant [09:14]
Diablo-D3 well [09:15]
Diablo-D3 it isn't what we want [09:15]
Diablo-D3 I want a functioning one, he doesn't, neither of us are getting what we want [09:15]
Diablo-D3 we're stuck in some sort of really shitty middle, thats somehow worse than just going one way or the other [09:15]
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freeone3000 Vietnam is now stage 6, which means my employer has decided it's safe to work there maskless. What do they have that we don't? [09:47]
Faux Immune systems. [09:48]
Faux Natural mask wearing. [09:48]
Diablo-D3 liars. [09:48]
sonOfRa freeone3000: uh, uuh you can't compare that because vietnam is (checks list) uh, an island! [09:48]
sonOfRa Wait, wrong one! [09:48]
freeone3000 (For comparison: Macau and New Zealand are the other stage 6s, Australia, Hong Kong, Singapore, and Isreal are Stage 5, everyone else is stage 4 or below, where "stage 4" means "closed") [09:48]
Faux Israelis had an office party without masks this week. [09:49]
freeone3000 In other news: I made british layered squares last night. They came out amazing, except I took one out of the pan too soon and the appearance of them all was ruined. Also, maple syrup grade A is a 1:1 substitution for "brown syrup", no matter what the purists say. [10:09]
Diablo-D3 what.. the fuck is brown syrup [10:20]
sonOfRa I've also never heard of layered squares! But since it's british, and it is replaced by maple syrup, it's probably beet syrup? [10:22]
db What is a layered square [10:23]
Diablo-D3 Im thinking layered squares is like, a british lemon square type of dissert [10:23]
Diablo-D3 Ive seen it on british comedies before [10:23]
freeone3000 "brown syrup" is mentioned as the ingredient name? it's some sort of invert sugar syrup, that happens to be brown. [10:24]
freeone3000 and maple syrup is all three of those things! [10:24]
freeone3000 db: It has a base of flour and eggs and brown sugar, and that's pre-baked, and then there's a baked caramel topping. [10:25]
Diablo-D3 apparently its supposed to be a honey replacement? that I googled [10:25]
freeone3000 and it's in two layers, instead of 3 like a nanaimo bar. [10:25]
Diablo-D3 "Golden syrup or light treacle is a thick amber-coloured form of inverted sugar syrup made by the process of refining sugar cane or sugar beet juice into sugar, or by treatment of a sugar solution with acid. It is used in a variety of baking recipes and desserts. It has an appearance similar to honey and is often used as a substitute where honey is unavailable or prohibitively expensive. [10:26]
Diablo-D3 It is not to be confused with amber corn syrup or amber refined sugar. Regular molasses, or dark treacle, has both a richer colour and a strong, distinctive flavour." [10:26]
sonOfRa Now I'm hungry [10:26]
db Jetzt ein schönes Glas Invertzuckersirup. [10:43]
Diablo-D3 wikipedia has also reminded me stroopwafels exist [10:47]
Diablo-D3 because its a dick that way [10:47]
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sonOfRa "A video of the app shows that it will allow users to customize what kind and how much hate speech they want to see, including "Racism" and "White Nationalism" sliders that can be set to "none," "some," "most," or "all," and a separate on and off toggle for the "N-word."" [11:17]
sonOfRa Ah yes, Intel [11:17]
sonOfRa That is the app we need [11:17]
freeone3000 https://twitter.com/dril/status/841892608788041732 [11:18]
freeone3000 freeone3000's title: "wint on Twitter: "turning a big dial taht says "Racism" on it and constantly looking back at the audience for approval like a contestant on the price is right"" [11:18]
Diablo-D3 I dunno [11:19]
Diablo-D3 Im happy with a single adult switch [11:19]
Diablo-D3 on or off [11:19]
sonOfRa Diablo-D3: oh right this isn't for games, this is for *comms* [11:19]
Diablo-D3 either you're an adult or you're not [11:19]
sonOfRa Intel is building real-time AI based censorship for comms in video games [11:19]
Diablo-D3 oh yeah, we'd fucking drop discord if that came to discord with my group [11:19]
Diablo-D3 if you processed everything we said, it'd be fuck, shit, damn, in various forms, as 90% of what is said [11:20]
Diablo-D3 the other 10% is making fun of republican cucks for being not only gay, but the bottom in their secret relationships [11:20]
freeone3000 for, specifically, racism. [11:21]
Diablo-D3 who the hell is racist anymore? racist is old hat [11:21]
Diablo-D3 classism is the new black [11:21]
freeone3000 because you can tell someone's a white nationalist by the words they use. do you think it gets to the "a future" bit, or does it pick up as soon as "we must secure"? [11:21]
sonOfRa I'm now imagining an Intel engineer, alone in his apt with paper thin walls, working from home, screaming racism into a microphone to train the AI [11:22]
waz critical race theory says you're racist if you're white and I'm even more racist because I'm white and my kids aren't. [11:22]
Diablo-D3 man, I must be most racist because I don't even identify as a filthy human, and am clearly the herald of a new species [11:23]
Diablo-D3 soon as I figure out how to make golden fucking powered armor, you'll all be fucked [11:24]
freeone3000 no? critical race theory examines how a dominant majority uses social and legal structures to maintain power? [11:27]
Diablo-D3 freeone3000: but that, in of itself, seems to be a form of control, as it controls the narrative, just using a different method [11:28]
acuzio Diablo-D3: You see they are not victims , they are willing participants . None of these guys (and they are mostly old, white guys) would bat an eyelid if this was happening to (cheks notes) quite literally anyone else [11:49]
acuzio I am just in favour of speeding the process ; [11:50]
Diablo-D3 I dunno, all of this seems like made up shit [11:50]
Diablo-D3 there are no "neonazis" [11:50]
Diablo-D3 its just people taking their cosplaying a little too seriously [11:50]
acuzio of couse [11:50]
Diablo-D3 hitler would have thrown those degenerates in the oven too [11:50]
acuzio course [11:50]
acuzio The same group is actively suppressing voting by anyone else other than Old, White people ; So when their Dear Leader bankrupts them , i am just happy to sit on the sidelines and so them get bankrupted , leading to hopefully some painful experiences at hospitals, homelessness, food banks ; I mean its exactly what they want for everyone "other" than themselves . So no, i dont think they are [11:53]
acuzio victims .I do want a functioning society exactly like what these guys want just from another perspective thats all [11:53]
acuzio Meanwhile in the UK , 6th night of violence in Northern Ireland [11:58]
Diablo-D3 acuzio: I get your point but [11:59]
Diablo-D3 Im advocating these people are put in a home somewhere [11:59]
Diablo-D3 so they cannot hurt others or themselves any longer [11:59]
Diablo-D3 they are not sound of mind [11:59]
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acuzio Nonsense [12:16]
acuzio They are terrorist supporters - [12:16]
acuzio Do you say the same thing about Al-Qaeda or ISIS supporters ? [12:16]
freeone3000 hell yeah, anti-colonialism solidarity [12:17]
acuzio I mean you are either for terrorists or against them - if you are against them surely all of the Y'all qaeda must be treated in the same way [12:19]
freeone3000 can we simply not judge each terrorist group on their merits? [12:20]
acuzio you mean there are "good people on both sides" [12:20]
freeone3000 of the irish border? sure. [12:20]
freeone3000 UK is looking like it's about to break the good friday agreement [12:21]
acuzio What do you mean "about to break" . The PM and his right hand man J-Dog have explicitly said they will break it . [12:21]
freeone3000 right. they haven't yet but they're about to. [12:21]
freeone3000 the one thing that made the annexation of northern island bearable was that everyone involved pretended that it was part of ireland proper, and even though it technically wasn't, it practically didn't matter. [12:22]
acuzio It was a slight of hand [12:22]
acuzio sleight even [12:22]
freeone3000 the crimean terrorists have a point, and y'know, so does the IRA. [12:23]
acuzio You are Irish , European and British ; and since conditions on both sides of the border were the same it made no difference . This was explained about a million times before Brexit , J-Dog , Hard man Steve Baker and Nadine Fucking Dorries didnt actually understand this. Bo Jo however actually did understand it and proceeded to still go ahead cause well becoming PM is more important [12:24]
freeone3000 the lack of a hard border also made a huge difference. people live in ireland and work in NI, and the reverse. reintroducing a hard border now will split up families. [12:25]
acuzio freeone3000: The IRA lost the argument when it started bombing people - isnt it ? [12:25]
freeone3000 it's fucking dumb and the people are right to oppose it using the means available to them to be heard. [12:26]
freeone3000 nonviolent protests do fuck all. [12:26]
acuzio Aah - [12:27]
acuzio If you are pro-violent protests then of course your viewpoint makes sense to you [12:27]
acuzio I dont believe in Violent Protests ; I believe in eradicating systemic issues and more importantly systemically racist people in any possible way [12:28]
acuzio The more painful the better [12:29]
freeone3000 ...individual people are not a system, they can't be systemically anything [12:29]
acuzio They can be [12:29]
freeone3000 they can't! they just can't! sue in accounting, no matter how many anecdotes she shares about her funny asian cousin, cannot be systemically *anything*, any more than she can be collectively, cohesively, or congregationally! [12:30]
acuzio Old, white men voting and donating to the Republicans are racist. They might be supporters or dis-interested spectators however once they start donating to the cause ; they are now systemically racist [12:30]
acuzio No more politics ; I was doing well for the last few days by not looking at this shit , this is pulling me back [12:31]
freeone3000 "systemic" is an adjective, which means "pertaining to a system"! requiring a $25 fee and a 3 hour wait for a voter ID card is *systemically* racist, because it's a *system* [12:31]
freeone3000 individual people are just racist [12:31]
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acuzio You are correct; [12:52]
acuzio In other news , ground floor tiling is done ; The tiler is going to come back to finish some of the finer details of the bathroom insets . [12:55]
ron pics or it didn't happen [12:56]
acuzio pics of what ? [01:14]
acuzio tiles ? [01:14]
acuzio This is the Northern Ireland situation in short : https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1380180030760890368.html [01:20]
acuzio God i am tired as fuck [01:21]
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ron yes, pictures of the tiles [01:38]
freeone3000 show off your new floor, geez [02:00]
ron yup, didn't happen. [02:19]
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ricky_clarkson It's just a hole, there is no floor. [02:45]
gambl0re if i have a super class and i have two sub classes that extends the super class if i call a method on the super class from the sub class will both sub classes be affected? [02:57]
freeone3000 huh? [02:59]
ricky_clarkson Classes aren't affected by method calls. [02:59]
ricky_clarkson If you have an instance of X that extends Y and do super.foo() within X.java, it won't involve anything at all from Z, where Z also extends Y. [03:00]
gambl0re ricky_clarkson: i see but i having an issue [03:01]
gambl0re i have a super class that has a .add() method. i have two sub classes that inherits the super class but when i use the add method from one subclass, it's also affecting the result of the second sub class [03:02]
gambl0re every time the add() method is called on the super class it also calls a updateCount() method on the super class. but the updateCount() method is updatin the count of BOTH sub classes. [03:04]
gambl0re i know its confusing [03:04]
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ricky_clarkson You probably have a static mutable variable. [03:11]
ricky_clarkson aka a global variable, with all the pros and cons therein. [03:11]
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acuzio ron: freeone3000 : ricky_clarkson I am going there tomorrow ., will send a couple across [04:36]
ron cool, looking forward to it. [04:36]
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acuzio I mean it ., i will send em forward [04:41]
ron I mean it too, looking forward to it [04:42]
acuzio ron: Here are 2 bad photos as taken by the builder's assistant : https://imgur.com/a/Dz8mx4a [04:53]
ron oh, that's pretty nice [04:54]
acuzio The tiler has 2 assistants and i think one of them sent this to Her 2 or so days ago to show progress or something [04:55]
acuzio But yeah that whole area is now tiled and skirting done via tiles as well [04:55]
sonOfRa fucking newspapers, man https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EycdpTLWQAIBHOR?format=jpg&name=large "Germans think their jobs are very secure. Only every second German is currently fearing for their job" [04:57]
acuzio Its basically Gold Marble Polished tiles and quite nice to look at , With light grey grouting once it settles down it might be really good [04:57]
acuzio sonOfRa: Is that a bad thing ? [04:57]
sonOfRa They're framing "50% of germans are fearing losing their jobs" as "Barely any germans are fearing job loss" [04:58]
sonOfRa It's probably an old article and not recent, but I found it funny [04:58]
sonOfRa Like, "50% of a group are doing X" is not a sentence compatible with the framing "Barely any members of group are doing X" [04:58]
ron dude that's in german [04:59]
tang^ you say that like it's a bad thing [05:09]
acuzio ba dum tissssssssssssssssssh [05:12]
acuzio Ladies and gents tang^ here this week [05:13]
ricky_clarkson sonOfRa: Are those 50% female by any chance? [05:18]
ricky_clarkson I guess it makes sense given the bass to treble quality ratio but it's kind of odd how good a flute can sound played over a laptop speakers. [05:24]
freeone3000 sonOfRa: Maybe it's a decline from the expected, where 100% of Germans would be afraid for their jobs? [05:26]
freeone3000 Or a comparison against the USA, where 70% is the last survey results? [05:27]
freeone3000 or the global average of 85%? [05:28]
freeone3000 acuzio: damn that looks clean. very smooth joins. with the frontis on top of the skirting that's going to look incredible. [05:30]
Diablo-D3 whats new zealand look like on that chart? [07:12]
Diablo-D3 also, how was "afraid of losing their job" framed? [07:13]
Diablo-D3 losing a job is a job, it aint yours to begin with [07:13]
Diablo-D3 how many of them were afraid of the consequences? [07:13]
ricky_clarkson Different levels of fear I expect. [07:45]
ricky_clarkson Losing your job in Belgium or somewhere means feeling a bit useless, but you'll still get your rent/mortgage paid etc. Losing it in the US could result in massive problems quite quickly depending on your savings. [07:46]
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