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« 2021-07-30


2021-08-01 »

Nick Message Date
freeone3000 My work computer now runs windows 11 [02:58]
Faux I think my situation is safer. [02:58]
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AMcBain freeone3000, isn't it still beta? Is there a reason to upgrade? [03:19]
freeone3000 AMcBain: we believe that eating dogfood produces a better product [03:21]
freeone3000 I've used it for maybe two hours? And I'm mostly annoyed that it performs worse. Granted, my system is nearly two years old, but it's noticeably laggy sometimes. [03:22]
freeone3000 But again, it's in beta, and it should be improved by release. [03:23]
Faux Do y'all run the debug builds? [03:25]
Faux Optimised ish. [03:26]
freeone3000 I run Insider, same as what the public gets. [03:27]
Faux Some of my friends who will gouge out their own kidneys instead of dual boot, are trying to run a specific build because apparently cuda and wsl works so you can run your work stuff without being in linux, and also play steam games. [03:28]
Faux Where "some build" is between the win10 freeze and the win11 release. [03:28]
freeone3000 Win10 isn't frozen. [03:29]
Faux I understood they paused releasing to one of the insider rings, or something. [03:30]
freeone3000 For some amount of time, both win10 and win11 will both get updates. [03:30]
Faux Frozen to insiders. [03:30]
freeone3000 Oh! Yeah, it's on a cadence and it'll just be paused for a bit. [03:30]
freeone3000 So there's no win10 updates for two months, but what's currently in insider will get pushed to win10 and that build currently includes wslg (which is wsl+CUDA) [03:31]
freeone3000 You might have surprising success running steam games under Linux btw. Proton is v v good [03:33]
Faux Personally I run linux and reboot to play Halo. >.> [03:33]
Faux The biggest issue with rebooting is that for some reason QUEBECNEATS causes my machine to print "shutdown is complete, rebooting" and then simply hang for ~4 minutes, then print a load of crap about cgroups. [03:34]
AMcBain freeone3000, oh right! Temporarily forgot you work for Microsoft. Totally makes sense now. [03:34]
freeone3000 Faux: try an init that doesn't suck. [03:35]
freeone3000 upstart if you have systemd units, runit if you don't. [03:36]
Faux I suspect reinstalling would fix it, and that would be less disruptive than changing init. :) [03:37]
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Maldivia Faux: since German, like Danish, is a compound language, it's not that hard to find out come up with words like that... a Danish example: bøgehæksbål [03:48]
Maldivia Granted, Danish has fewer non ascii letters in its alphabet [03:49]
Faux It was from a unicode test page. I find it more amusing that, instead of just listing the letters, over 25 years language experts have attempted to minmax the words. [03:50]
Maldivia the quick brown fox.... [03:50]
Faux c.f. this [03:50]
Faux This one is almost a real sentence with words I know. > Glib jocks quiz nymph to vex dwarf. [03:51]
Faux "Pack my box with five dozen liquor jugs." ( ) [03:51]
Maldivia Danish has a perfect pangram, that makes sense [03:51]
Faux I know very little about Danish. :( [03:52]
Maldivia Høj bly gom vandt fræk sexquiz på wc [03:52]
Faux I don't know what a freak sex quiz is but I am interessted. [03:52]
Maldivia Kinky quiz about sex [03:53]
Maldivia Tall shy groom won a kinky quiz about sex while on the toilet [03:54]
Faux Turns out I do know Danish. [03:54]
Maldivia Bly is a bit archaic, but otherwise (also means lead, as in the metal) [03:55]
Faux Lead having so many words entertains me. I guess it's just been known for so long. [04:04]
freeone3000 It's the peanut butter element. [04:14]
Faux It doesn't even have an Age named after it. [04:15]
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sonOfRa Huh. Apparently the current minecraft version (at least the server) requires java 16 to run [05:38]
sonOfRa Sucks, because Gentoo has only packaged java up to 11, and given up [05:38]
Faux Bold choice. [05:39]
Faux Apparently the sickoss at ubuntu are packaging 8, 11, 15, 16 and 17. [05:39]
Faux Surprised they don't ship it as a reasonably idiotproof fatexe. [05:39]
Faux I don't even know what the next lts after 11 was supposed to be. [05:40]
Faux 17 apparently. [05:40]
Faux Haha, Amazon doing Java 8 through 2026. [05:41]
sonOfRa Interesting, the "whatsapp web" button on my phone is gone [06:15]
sonOfRa Already linked browsers still work, but can't add a new one. Instead, there is a "linked devices" option, which wants me to enter a PIN, which is *not* the PIN I use to protect the whatsapp account from takeover [06:15]
Faux Link Devices here wants fingerprint auth, so I guess it's your device pin. [06:22]
sonOfRa oooh [06:36]
sonOfRa That was non obvious [06:36]
Faux The pin view looks nothing like the android pin auth screen, I'd not type my pin into that. :( [06:37]
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freeone3000 It proxies your phone auth through the website so it can use your phone's connection to run WhatsApp. What's weird about this? (Everything. Don't do this.) [08:42]
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acuzio morning ladies [09:42]
Smachek Hi [09:43]
acuzio Smachek: [09:43]
yawkat acuzio: [09:43]
acuzio yawkat: [09:43]
sonOfRa acuzio: [09:43]
acuzio sonOfRa: [09:44]
yawkat has london burnt down yet [09:44]
acuzio yawkat: i dont think its on target to burn down its full of Russian and Chinese oligarchs so there is a ways to go for it [09:44]
acuzio Poor people are being asked to leave of course ., so there is that [09:45]
yawkat as is tradition [09:46]
acuzio as is tradition [09:46]
acuzio Ran 6 Km today ., tired as fuck now. Saw the Player doing his Player things [09:47]
freeone3000 Canada Air has added a flight to Cancun to the vaccination lottery prize draw. [09:49]
acuzio The Player#s got the hot bird standing next to him on the treadmill chatting to him while he is getting his slow cardio in . I have decided to mentally think of the Player as my Guru [09:50]
acuzio In other news , I realised that there is no GPU that can do 4K Zoom share without stuttering mightily [09:51]
acuzio even 4k/ 30 FPS [09:51]
acuzio freeone3000: This is just bad ., they should just let them die [09:55]
acuzio If they infect others who are vaccinated then its the fault of the vaccinated to mingle with morons [09:56]
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freeone3000 With a socialized healthcare system, we can't just let people die. It costs all of us. [10:13]
cheeser s/socialized// [10:15]
acuzio freeone3000: This is the reason I am in favor of a) opening vaccination to everyone b) for those who reject it , they should get logged _and_ removed from the system. There is a reason why "Survival Of The Fittest" is a valid point [10:16]
acuzio Its important to aim for the Highest Common Factor and not get dragged down by the Lowest Common Multiple. [10:16]
cheeser more humanely, it's why i support vaccine passports. don't want to get the jab, stay the fuck home. have your groceries delivered. no bars. no theaters. no amusement parks. nothing. [10:17]
acuzio cheeser: Yes. But more logically , they should not have access to Social Healthcare [10:17]
acuzio Freedom. As it should be. Dont believe in vaccination ,good, great . Now die. [10:18]
freeone3000 No, that's not how it works. First it's people who don't get this vaccination. Then it's people who jump off bridges for fun. Then it's people who slide down hills on a garbage can lid and hit a tree. [10:19]
freeone3000 Understandably, you can in fact stop a slippery slope at any point, but, *everyone gets healthcare*. Even if you did it to yourself doing dumb shit. [10:19]
Faux Israel has solved this problem. Everyone gets insurance from the state until they do something stupid, then they take it away. [10:20]
acuzio freeone3000: Yes i understand the logic, however its time to cut the anti-vaxxers off. There are some folks who are beyond reach , they should be stamped as "anti-vaxxers" and said "good luck, please die soon" [10:20]
freeone3000 cheeser: yeah, vaccines are fully digital here so you have canimmunize outside of Quebec and the publicsante website inside of Quebec, but there's currently no mechanism or ruling around who gets to read them. [10:22]
acuzio A week or so ago , on CBS they had a guy who is an anti-vaxxer "muh freedom" guy , actually being looked after for Covid , being interviewed and stating : "I will not get the vaccine , Its my body" . this is great, unfortunately he is being treated on my taxes. I dont people like them to survive or multiply. You dont water the weeds in your garden so why are these people allowed to live. [10:22]
freeone3000 ...don't you live in America, where he is, in fact, not treated on your taxes? [10:23]
acuzio freeone3000: He was on "ObamaCare" [10:23]
acuzio So he is in fact at least partially being treated on my dime. [10:23]
freeone3000 Would that be the state-level Medicaid expansion or the standardization and portability of private health plans? [10:24]
acuzio (The news bulletin didnt specify that except to state "name of patient" who is on ObamaCare still refuses to take the vaccine) ,,, and went on to show the dude all plugged in and then being all "muh body, muh freedom" [10:25]
freeone3000 Bit late for the vaccine, then. [10:25]
acuzio He can still get it when he is out of the hospital and the time has passed. The principle of him actually being treated is the problem [10:26]
acuzio This is the _biggest_ problem with the "Left". The idea that the other side can be converted and all they need is to hear your great arguments. No , it cant be converted , they should be culled like you would cull a diseased stock in an Animal pen. Its the one and the only way. [10:28]
acuzio When there was the Mad Cow disease , you didnt go to the cow and try and talk to it . You killed it. These people are the same. They cant be reached. They are like diseased animals , multiplying and spreading their disease. They should be killed. [10:29]
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freeone3000 People are not a disease and we're not going to kill them. [11:31]
Faux examines the plot of Halo. [11:32]
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Faux NO [01:08]
Faux Faux's title: "Home car charger owners urged to install updates - BBC News" [01:08]
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db is down. [10:09]
db db's title: "Oops, something went wrong... | The Eclipse Foundation" [10:09]
db it probably is every sunday at this time, it is just the first time that someone tried it [10:10]
AMcBain I dunno, the tweets on that page say scheduled maintenance was completed on the 29th. [11:33]
AMcBain looks like something auto-posted without checking that it actually completed without borking things. [11:33]
db the classic friday-evening-commit ;-) [11:40]
db (although it was a thursday) [11:40]
AMcBain Yeah, never deploy on a Friday. :D [11:46]