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puppy_za morning [01:47]
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sonOfRa good morning [03:09]
puppy_za hi hi [03:11]
puppy_za I am reading on Elm [03:14]
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puppy_za it seems like a nice language [03:15]
db Elm. [03:23]
sonOfRa [twisti]: gitlab changed the milestone for showing junit test results again :D [03:23]
sonOfRa jan2020/feb2020 now [03:23]
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ron ugh [04:53]
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sonOfRa Any of you have recommendations for a decent table-mounted vesa thingy? Need to attach 2 monitors, and I want it to not extend too far into the back, because I don't have that much space [05:59]
Faux Happy to drill through the surface? [05:59]
Faux Apparently I can't find the brand my old flatmate had anyway. [06:00]
sonOfRa Hm. For the old desk yes, but I kinda wanna buy a new one and don't really want to? [06:00]
scav Why though? Sounds like a perfectly valid reason to do so... [06:01]
Faux The through-hole ones are so much better. [06:01]
scav Sometimes they will help you drill holes at the store [06:02]
sonOfRa Do they just have the screw go through the hole, or do they need like, a big hole? [06:03]
Faux Through. [06:04]
Faux And bolt onto a load spreader plate on the bottom. [06:04]
sonOfRa Yeah that's probably not too bad actually [06:05]
scav We have Resolve-it (or something) to control deploys and changed across every system. I love hoe [06:21]
scav +how it actually has a UX element designed to tell you "transaction running" counting the seconds(yes, seconds) you wait for a new page to load. 30s is a totally normal response time [06:21]
ron sttupid vps [06:24]
ron also stupid keyyboard [06:26]
scav stupid [06:28]
ron [06:39]
ron ron's title: "gutr on Twitter: "Client: We accept the risks of you testing in prod. Me:"" [06:39]
Faux jfc [06:41]
sonOfRa this looks like a reasonable hole size, I think I'll use one of their mount and this "foot" [06:46]
sonOfRa Just gotta make sure the spreader plate actually fits properly, there's an annoying metal thingy across the back of the desk [06:59]
Faux just drill through it too [07:00]
Faux The spreader plate doesn't have to be flat if your desk isn't made of cardboard, and/or you don't care about the desk surviving. (Note: IKEA desks, which I have many of, are literally made of cardboard.) [07:01]
sonOfRa I'll have to check whne I get home, maybe it's not even in the way depending on how far into the desk I drill the hole [07:10]
Faux If you drill enough holes you won't have a desk anymore. [07:11]
fotato Not all their desks are hollow [07:13]
fotato But all the cheap ones are. [07:14]
fotato [07:15]
fotato There?s are solid [07:15]
sonOfRa I think mine actually isn't [07:15]
fotato These [07:15]
Faux I was expecting the glass plane ones. [07:15]
sonOfRa but yeah I'd have to check when I get home [07:15]
Faux Those thin ones are probably the thick ones (plywood, cardboard, plywood) with the cardboard omitted. >.> [07:16]
fotato Nope [07:23]
fotato I had one [07:23]
fotato Fairly dense laminated mdf [07:23]
fotato Solid enough to stand on [07:23]
fotato Drilled through mine to add more cable management [07:24]
fotato (With a holesaw) [07:24]
Faux Cool. I have a no-name alternative which weighs about 4Mg. [07:24]
Faux You can get 1L of base for less than a pack of 20 cigarettes. [07:26]
Faux That was clearly the wrong window. [07:26]
Bombe Fucking vaper! [07:26]
Faux Guy is saying that vaping is only about half the price of cigarettes. [07:27]
Faux And that he's poor so vaping instead of smoking. [07:27]
Faux Until payday. [07:27]
Faux So many things with all of these statements. [07:27]
scav I mean why smoke when you can vape anything [07:29]
Faux 'cos vaping is liquid on the lungs which is bad for you. [07:30]
scav is it though? [07:31]
scav if you vape weed, is it liquid or just gasses? [07:31]
Faux I dunno, I inject marijuanas directly into my butthole. [07:32]
Faux The recent deaths were because the weed doesn't mix properly with water, so people were putting it in non-lung-safe oil and then dying. [07:32]
Faux There are lung-safe oil-like things apparently. [07:32]
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dreamreal shudders [08:02]
sonOfRa Drugs are bad mkay [08:02]
sonOfRa This is why I drink. Alcohol is not a drug! [08:03]
Faux I snort caffeine. [08:05]
sonOfRa also not a drug [08:05]
sonOfRa Drugs are only drugs if they're illegal [08:05]
sonOfRa And cannabis is banned in germany because it's illegal (that's an actual quote by the drug policy representative of the federal german government) [08:06]
sonOfRa She was asked why cannabis is banned and alcohol is not, and the answer was that cannabis is illegal, and alcohol is not. That's why cannabis is banned, and alcohol is not. [08:06]
puppy_za who was she [08:07]
Faux D [08:07]
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ron fuck the world [08:26]
sonOfRa ask for consent first, though [08:28]
ron because the world has asked me for consent on it fucking me over and over again? [08:29]
sonOfRa fair enough [08:29]
sonOfRa fuck away [08:29]
db aww [08:31]
fotato ^ #incelhour [08:31]
sonOfRa fotato: no that would be ron complaining about *not* getting fucked [08:32]
db fotato: is that a channel? [08:32]
fotato Christ. Probably. [08:32]
db I'll never find out [08:33]
scav Faux: people mix weed with water? when you can vape it dry just fine? sigh [08:45]
scav or rather, why would you need to mix it with a liquid [08:45]
sonOfRa extract for vape liquids. So you don't have to extract yourself [08:45]
sonOfRa And can just fill up your vapestick with weed juice [08:45]
ron "His hobbies are reading non-fiction books, traveling around the world (he's been to Norway, Spain, Australia, and South America)..." [08:46]
scav but you can just grind it and put it into a vape. if you wanna vape oil, buy the oil... [08:46]
db around the world [08:55]
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Faux scav: Buy the oil? You just killed six people through not being specific enough. [09:29]
freeone3000 Just go to your government weed vendor, say how you'd like to consume it, and buy the product that they say matches the characteristics of what you're looking for. [09:32]
freeone3000 how is this hard [09:32]
Faux Pretty hard here. [09:33]
sonOfRa freeone3000: <sonOfRa> And cannabis is banned in germany because it's illegal (that's an actual quote by the drug policy representative of the federal german government) [09:33]
freeone3000 sonOfRa: I bet you it's illegal because it's banned. [09:33]
sonOfRa well obviously [09:34]
puppy_za circular argument [09:34]
freeone3000 man if Quebec can do it the rest of the world can [09:35]
Faux Are you busy trying to Canexit? [09:36]
sonOfRa Problem is that drug policy in germany is made by people who believe alcohol is not a drug, and that drinking yourself to the point of beating your family is a cultural value [09:36]
sonOfRa And all other drugs except cigarretes and alcohol will turn you into an evil murderer [09:36]
sonOfRa immediately [09:36]
freeone3000 Faux: They keep having a strawpoll to determine whether we should have a vote to see if we have a referendum. [09:37]
Faux Yeah, Jesus wouldn't approve sonOfRa. [09:37]
Faux Plus, if you want to ban alcohol you're probably a muslim. [09:37]
Faux And you know what we think about muslims. (Hint: they're not even people.) [09:37]
freeone3000 aka, the voters kind of want out but not strongly enough to be in the streets, and the politicians really want to continue to receive enough revenue to produce a functioning modern state [09:37]
ron BANANA OOH NA NA [09:46]
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sonOfRa swagger++ [09:56]
sonOfRa swagger has a karma level of 7, sonOfRa [09:56]
sonOfRa Gonna see how this turns out, but instead of just documenting this service with swagger annotations, we're going to actually write yml for it and regenerate it (and clients) from that for the future [09:57]
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freeone3000 "Hey, you do finance, right?" [to guy who worked at a quant firm] "Yeah, I dabbled. What's up?" "What would it mean if the fed bailed out the overnight loan market?" "I'm SORRY? By how much?" "$75 billion." "Billion, with a B? Holy jesus fuck." [10:02]
sonOfRa ron: does one generally check in code generated by swagger, or do you just generate it with maven at build time? [10:05]
sonOfRa (if you don't want to do swagger support in here, I understand, just let me know) [10:05]
ron nah, it's fine [10:05]
ron it really depends though, I can think of value in both ways [10:05]
ron in some of the instances we use it internally, it's checked in, but I know that some use it in build time as well [10:06]
sonOfRa right. I suppose I'll play with it a bit and see what feels better [10:10]
scav i love you aws. tell me your gateway supports openapi 3 now, then fail instantly when i include a $ref in my specification [10:14]
ron dear user, sorry for the inconvenience to you. we're aware of the issue and it is due to blah blah blah we've chosen not to proactively tell you or give you the information in your account online, and waste your time emailing us about it because fuck you. it should be resolved soon. [10:19]
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ron k, vps is back [11:31]
ron someone kill me [11:47]
ron now [11:47]
ron please [11:47]
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freeone3000 When you work at microsoft, "Windows Data Handling Procedures" is a different document than you might expect. [12:22]
freeone3000 lol @ the $10 bid on [12:53]
freeone3000 (This is a Klug alter. He did this one "for fun", but a comission by him costs between $600 and $800) [12:53]
fotato It?s up to 160? [12:58]
fotato eBay bidding is ?minimum to beat? right [12:58]
freeone3000 ah, yep. there we go. [12:58]
fotato So if only one person bid, it would look low. [12:59]
fotato Check the bid history. That?ll show the actual beaten bid amounts. [12:59]
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freeone3000 1**1 has an actual beaten bid at $10 [01:50]
freeone3000 And my bid of $550 is beaten which means I'm out [01:50]
fotato Heh. [01:56]
fotato It looks like a still from a Miyazaki movie. [01:56]
freeone3000 It is! It's from Spirited Away. [01:58]
fotato Aha. [02:01]
fotato >Apologies, I do not ship to Italy or Spain. [02:02]
fotato Oddly specific. [02:02]
freeone3000 Their postal services don't understand what "NO MACHINING" means. [02:02]
freeone3000 or how "delivery" works. see: [02:03]
freeone3000 freeone3000's title: "How to Ensure the Italian Post Works" [02:03]
fotato So charge more and use ups [02:04]
freeone3000 ups has a two-star rating in italy because they keep losing packages [02:04]
ron dhl [02:05]
freeone3000 dhl exists in the us? [02:06]
ron I receive packages through them from europe so I'll go with... yes? [02:09]
fotato Yeah they do. [02:09]
sonOfRa ron: can I somehow reference a readOnly property of one schema as not-read-only in another schema? It's an ID; the id is going to be generated by the system, and you're not supposed to send the id when creating a new Entity. However when you create a new Entity that *references* that Entity, obviously you need to supply the ID. But if the id is readOnly in the first entity, it doesn't show up in the second one as a reference [02:29]
sonOfRa Or do I just write entityId with an integer type in that case, without referencing? [02:36]
sonOfRa Or the third option: Just embed the entire object in it, and in the actual code, just only use the ID. [02:39]
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freeone3000 oct 24-25th I'll be in New York City, maybe a couple of days earlier or later too. [03:06]
freeone3000 And again my ability to send timely emails, manage meeting minutes, and coordinate bug reports is of more value than actually writing computer programs. [03:45]
freeone3000 Why don't they just hire middle managers and teach them to code, instead of doing it this sloppy way? [03:46]
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fotato waz: ^ [05:05]
fotato freeone3000: beer? [05:06]
fotato Or fancy cocktails [05:06]
fotato Or kombucha and a vague feeling of superiority [05:06]
freeone3000 cocktails sounds great. I'll see what days exactly I'm free. [05:08]
waz freeone3000 I'll be in N [05:58]
waz YC the next 2 weeks [05:58]
waz let's all meet up and pretend we [05:59]
waz 've met acuzio [05:59]
dreamreal waz: how's mexico city? [06:03]
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waz crowded [09:45]
db yep [09:51]
db (rage quits= [09:52]
db ) [09:52]
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